Why promote Hollywoodaffiliates?

[archiehall]

Bonuses are earned in periods up to 90 days... so it is very possible that a player could earn 1 point in the period generating 28 cents in revenue but get paid on a single increment $1k bonus... This is how Poker bonuses work.

Here is the last 90 days.....

Gross Revenue $1,336.42
Bonuses $-1,199.70
Net Revenue $136.72
Revenue-Share [20 %] $27.34
Affiliate Commission $27.34

Now how does that work?

In addition clicks and impressions do not isolate out what is legit or not from your side... in that we don’t know what is US or not... or a pop up on a no related page, etc.

No popups, 100% hollywood poker related pages. 99% search engine traffic.

If you are getting better conversion with other sites, so be it, but please do not question the legitimacy of our company. We work very hard with all of our affiliates to help conversion via promos, bonuses, etc. I've told you I would do the same for you, but this went on empty ears.
-Chris

I am questioning the legitimacy of the program. This would fall on deaf ears if it was not on a public forum.

Hi WDC,

He currently is on rev-share, and I'm open to making changes for him. As you will see from my earlier post in this thread, I tried reaching out to find something better for him, and he declined my offer.

Without having his affiliate account name, I can't be much help.

Yes, I declined. A solution would be honest reporting which has not been the case. I dont see why a user name would make a difference other that cause me more issues as it has in the past dealing with hollywood poker.

We can resove this if Hollywood Poker can deal with my issues raised on a general level, not on an individual basis.

I still have a little daily traffic going to HP but letting it die.

[Guard Dog]

Yes, I declined. A solution would be honest reporting which has not been the case. I dont see why a user name would make a difference other that cause me more issues as it has in the past dealing with hollywood poker.

We can resove this if Hollywood Poker can deal with my issues raised on a general level, not on an individual basis.

I still have a little daily traffic going to HP but letting it die.

I can understand not wanting to give your details. Chris, however, is a stand-up guy. He will help you if he has the proper information.

In order to see WHY bonuses were given - he needs to know which players bonuses were given to

I would give him a chance to find out what the problem is before writing him off or casting doubt upon a program that has many satisfied affiliates.

I agree problems should be resolved and even in public.... however, if you are not willing to give him details - there is no way this will ever be resolved - and that is a true disappointment.

All affiliates should be able to see this case through completion so that they can decide if Hollywood Affiliates is a program they want to work with. Your affiliate id will help Chris move forward so that WE CAN ALL find out what the story is.

[Guard Dog]

Archiehall -

I've got another request I am having a difficult time with this one. Can you at least post your stats with an image so that we can see your stats?

HA has been good for every affiliate I have talked to. If you are the only affiliate with problems - then I am sure it is an easy resolution. However - I'd like to see the full stats image to take a deeper look at it.

Thanks!

[Engineer]

I received my first payment from Hollywood Affiliates the other day. (Thanks, Chris!) Hopefully it won't be my last.

I don't know what to make of archie's comments. If there really is a reporting issue, it should be fixed. I think we need more info from archie about why he thinks there could be an issue.

[archiehall]

My problem isnt really a bonus issue. It goes way back.

I have added an attachment for clicks v signups.

My issue is with HP manipulating stats.

OK, I stopped promoting HP a couple of years back but still have the odd review page.

Once they snag you with the residual income, its difficult to question. Once you do, rest assured your stats will stutter dramatically.

No offense Chris but Ive heard it all from the HP team and its a no go. My point of posting was to question AGD's policy on accepting HP as a certified partner (Answered), the other was to inform people of potential issues further down the line.

I draw the line at selective tracking.

[Chris_Hollywood]

To say we manipulate stats is unreal.

How would we possibly do this? You are the first person I've ever heard say this, and your statement couldn't he more far from the truth.

How many of your clicks are from US traffic? You haven't answered this yet. Knowing how many of your clicks are coming from relative traffic is very important and could be the problem.

You won't let me help you, so I don't know what else to say..

Please don't accuse us of manipulating stats. We have spent many years building trust and honesty into our affiliate relationships.

-Chris

[archiehall]

To say we manipulate stats is unreal.

How would we possibly do this? You are the first person I've ever heard say this, and your statement couldn't he more far from the truth.

[QUOTE=Chris_Hollywood;4058]
Others have agreed with me. I do not know what is fact other than the stats HP spews at me. I have posted. I am a legit affiliate with legit traffic so I dont have to explain the stats. Others may question my traffic, fair enough, but it is purely search engine targeted & the results are a farce.

Chris, you may be a stand up guy but I cannot take the chance knowing the group you are involved with.

How many of your clicks are from US traffic? You haven't answered this yet. Knowing how many of your clicks are coming from relative traffic is very important and could be the problem.

roughly 60%. I ensure players know that HP does not accept american players and give them alternatives.

With the stats I displayed, I shouldnt even have to tell you what country they came from. Having experience in affiliate issues, do you agree?

If not, I will open my account to an observer, not to HP. If lots0 agrees, we can discuss this further, openly.

You won't let me help you, so I don't know what else to say..

I read your posts more than you do mine. I told you no deal.

Please don't accuse us of manipulating stats. We have spent many years building trust and honesty into our affiliate relationships.
-Chris

It sounds generic, many years is 2005. You used to have stats that updated instantly, you changed. As an affiliate who was with you from the beginning, the removal of instant stats was an overnight setback.

New affiliates, be careful.

[Engineer]

I've only been promoting Club Hollywood for a few months, so I never saw the old stats. When did they switch to the current system? I wonder if maybe the switch to the new stats happened around the same time Playtech pulled out of the U.S. market in late 2006.

[archiehall]

I've only been promoting Club Hollywood for a few months, so I never saw the old stats. When did they switch to the current system? I wonder if maybe the switch to the new stats happened around the same time Playtech pulled out of the U.S. market in late 2006.

To be honest, Im not sure. It was before the UIGEA but mid to late 2006 sounds a good mark.

All I asked for was honesty. Never got it. HP, those pennies count and when you cut, we notice. Stick to your newbies and old friends. Others dont buy your integrity, although you do pay on time (whatever).