What is the overall consensus here?

[GFPC]

I know there has been chatter on this group for a while now. I used to work with them a couple of years ago and had some issues. They were settled and we parted ways.

I just wanted some feedback and opinions on this now - more current since the last posts were a while ago. Has anything changed for the better? I know they are not rogued.

They are listed as predatory - what are the main reasons if someone could chime in please.

[bonusgeek]

This is the old cpays right? If so I worked them when I first got into the industry and didn't know much. To make a long story short it didn't take long for them to beat me out of about $5K. So I don't trust them one bit just bc they have a different name and became the marketing arm for a trusted brand like william hill.

It's a shame too because I have talked with a couple affiliate managers from William Hill that I wouldn't mind doing business with on a personal level. Real classy people you know. But it's that old saying screw me once shame on you, screw me twice shame on me.

[DoggyStyle]

I'm promoting them for almost a year. Mainly because of William Hill. One thing is very suspicious: When I started I put banners on my site - top positions. I had not much traffic but still approximately 5 - 15 new sign ups a month.
Now I do very well, have more than 4x the traffic, same banners but no one signs up anymore! A while ago I even bought ad-space on other websites (with huge traffic) and still no new players!
And last month I was up to 2k (from my one and only player I guess). On the very last day of September he has won big and I'm at -4k now.
I don't blame Affutd, but it sucks! Since they have negative carry over it's gonna take months to recover.
I think I am going to drop them.

[CaseyM]

Yes shouldnt the negative carryover here AGD Terms Certification be amended to yes

[GFPC]

Thanks so far guys for the honest answers. I know about the old Cpay's stuff.
I just did not want to be condemned if I decide to do a trial. I will of course be very protected with whatever I do, Which is why i wanted advanced opinions.

[Webzcas]

Affiliates United are in all intents and purposes Casino Pays, with a new name and a new site. The people that worked for CPays, now work for Affiliates United.

Whilst they may now be part of William Hill Online, WHO is part owned by Playtech who part owned CPays.

I wouldn't work with them personally, as there are too many horror stories out there, including affiliates being messed around when it comes to being paid.

[arkyt]

The name CPays should serve as a big red stop sign here... but hey its your traffic.

[AussieDave]

Which is why i wanted advanced opinions.

If your going to trial them (personally I wouldn't touch them with a 30 foot barge pole) do a CPA, not rev share.

The old CPays was busted doing unethical cross marketing. And seeing Affiliate United is just a re-brand of the former I say nothing has changed.

CasinoAffiliateFrauds.com - AD-GENCY and CASINO PAYS and cPAYS should be avoided because they are dishonest crooks

Webrouteservices owned by CPAYS

Cpays - An insider reveals all

There's more info about Cpays if you look around but that's a starter for you.

Cheers



Dave

[Vladi]

We were ripped off by cpays for several thousand a few years ago.

But it is not just the rip offs, it is the pressure tactics they will use on you. The constant badgering for more exposure, the threats to cancel your deal if you don't comply, not to mention the shaving, spamming, competing portals, blackhat SEO etc. You name it, these guys are into it up to their necks.

Its the same people using different name. Do yourself a favour and don't go there.

[GFPC]

Thanks for all the comments guys. I really appreciate them!