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    I frequently moan about Wagershare's bad points (and there are many) but credit where it's due, I've got players going back a long time still showing in my stats. That doesn't players haven't been 'lost' that I don't know about, but I got no proof for that and without an audit, I wouldn't assume it.
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    I currently have a similar problem with locked players at Wagershare as others have reported.

    In June and July I had 13 new depositing players with a total of $2000 commission, but I've been told that 8 out of those 13 accounts have been locked.

    But the interesting part is that these accounts were not locked by the operator due to fraud, apparently these 8 people all apparently REQUESTED their own accounts to be locked! So I've been told...

    And the locking of those 8 accounts results in $0 commission payable right now - with the $2000 to be paid in 6 months, not the 3 months that people have written earlier here.

    What do you think about the chances of 8 from 13 new depositors all requesting their accounts to be locked within the space of 2 months?

    I asked my aff manager about these players and he wrote :

    I can tell you that 4 accounts were locked due to addiction, 2 accounts on players request without further explanation, 1 account was not happy with the odds and one is claiming that he has been overcharged.

    As I said, the amount of locked accounts it is very unusual, but they all have been locked for a reason. You will be paid your earnings from this accounts after 6 months. We just need to make sure that there is no fraud involved.
    I guess it's possible to occasionally have an uncommonly high percentage of people locking their accounts, but since other people have reported problems with locked accounts it seems likely there's something else going on here...

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    The fact of this rule not being in their terms just ticks me off! Most affiliates would have no clue this is happening unless they read it here. Now they change to 6 months that is plain retarded because if the player did a chargeback it would be completed in 3 months time not 6!! I find it funny as well that players lock themselves out so much, if wagershare did not want us to be so suspicious they would be totally transparent from the start on how they plan to screw you over! They are very rude to affiliates now as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonustreak View Post
    The fact of this rule not being in their terms just ticks me off! Most affiliates would have no clue this is happening unless they read it here. Now they change to 6 months that is plain retarded because if the player did a chargeback it would be completed in 3 months time not 6!! I find it funny as well that players lock themselves out so much, if wagershare did not want us to be so suspicious they would be totally transparent from the start on how they plan to screw you over! They are very rude to affiliates now as well.
    Got a few accounts locked with them myself but I have asked how much will be paid after 6 months and all looks fine to me.

    Other programs just close and you will see nothing, In fact I have NEVER (seen) had an additional payment from Brightshare, ReferBack or FortuneAffiliates.........

    On the other hand if an account is closed the casino will not earn too.

    If you do not trust a program open some testaccounts and see what happens to your deposits etc, you can never tell otherwise.

    I can not say they are rude but to the point and helpful IMO, it is bizz for them and time is money.

    just my 2c

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    proof that we did send in players!

    I just got a nice letter today... Hi Christine,
    I hope you are well.

    In the current month we had no new players delivered so based on these stats and the amount delivered to us in the last 3 months I have to change your commission to 25% from the 1st of August. I hope you understand.

    Please let me know if you have any questions,

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    Hi Christine,

    I think they based their decision on the last three months rather than July (you probably have sent no new players), I think if you give them some more exposure and send some customers you will get the old deal back. I know their deals are based on performance. FYI I am on 25% and sent them 26 new players (accounts) this month .......you are not alone

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    I know it is based on performance and we give them a ton of exposure the problem is they are not including the 2 casinos they are removing which is BS I sent new players there over the last few months as well. I have sent and given them a ton of traffic over the yrs, they have dedicated pages as well so the exposure thing is not the issue. I will not be bullied into giving any program more exposure when there are way too many others out there that actually like their affiliate partners and do NOT blackmail you into more exposure. I never signed an agreement about this % dropping either since I have been an affiliate there for over 8 yrs now.

    When a company does this and they change the 3 months to the 6 months it makes me think there are some money flow issues, also dropping 2 brands makes me think more and more they are cutting the fat.

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    Although I am still promoting them myself at the moment, IMO WagerShare are not to be trusted 100%, simply due to their attitude toward spamming.

    There is a fake website called "SP Casino" which is being heavily spammed by e-mail (all links on that site download Spin Palace) - and also BetWay is being spammed as "Bet2Day", "Bet-A-Day" and numerous other similar names.
    This has been going on for at least a year, which clearly says to me that WagerShare/Palace Group are either condoning it, or even possibly are the direct source of all this spam.

    See this thread: Yet more Palace group SPAM!
    (Read right to the end)

    CasinoMeister said he would tackle them over it months ago - but that was the last we heard of it...

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    Since my last post I'm watching my commission going down and down - a few days ago on the main page it showed the commission as around $300 and at the top of the page it also showed the commission as $300, then when I next checked it still showed $300 on the main page but $200 at the top, then the next time I checked it showed $300 on the main page but $150 at the top.

    That's because my actual commission IS $300 but supposedly players keep choosing to lock their own accounts, causing the payable commissions to drop!

    There must be something going on over there, I've never seen such a high percentage of players locking their own accounts...

    Also they're holding back over $2000 in commission to be paid in the future, but their system doesn't show it anywhere. So now I will need to contact my AM every single month to ask how much is being held, then I need to keep records and reminders for next December, January, February etc. just to keep up with these holdbacks.

    It would be much better if their system actually showed the withheld amounts, so I don't have to just trust that someone there is keeping track...

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