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    Question Vegas Sky cross marketing -- cutting out affiliates?


    On Nov. 7, 2008, I set up a player account at Rival-powered Vegas Sky Casino. Today I received the following email from Vegas Sky:


    From: "Vegas Sky"
    Subject: $150 million jackpot must be won


    Dear xxxxx

    Thank you for playing on Vegas Sky Casino, where you can enjoy generous bonuses and perhaps one day win a fortune. If it's a fortune that you are looking for, then read on!

    Vegas Sky Casino has two sister websites:

    xwww.uklotterylive.com [points to xhttp://www.uklotterylive.com/Default.aspx?cid=31]
    xwww.euromillionslive.com [points to: xhttp://www.euromillionslive.com/Default.aspx?cid=31]

    You can buy lottery tickets for the UK National and the EuroMillions International Lotteries, two of the world's largest cash payout Lotteries with jackpots of up to $150 million! These prizes are paid out tax free and in one lump sum! The websites have been operating for over three years and have tens of thousands of lottery players from all over the world!

    xwww.euromillionslive.com: [points to: xhttp://www.euromillionslive.com/Default.aspx?cid=31]

    Is a weekly draw with jackpots ranging from $10m to $150m for a ticket price of just £3, equivalent to $4.50. The EuroMillions lottery also holds massive Superdraws twice a year, with prizes of about $150m. That’s 120m Euros or £100m or R1.5 billion!

    The Awsome Mega-Draw!

    There is an Awsome Megadraw THIS Friday!! 6th March and the estimated jackpot is a staggering $130m, which is 100m Euros or £90m – a fortune in any currency! Signup and deposit for this draw and we will give you a 25% match deposit!

    xwww.uklotterylive.com: [points to xhttp://www.uklotterylive.com/Default.aspx?cid=31]

    Is a twice weekly draw with jackpots ranging from $4m to $60m for a ticket price of £2.50, equivalent to $3.75. And on Saturday you could win a very useful $12m (£8m, R120m) at xhttp://www.uklotterylive.com – make it yours!

    So check out our sister websites and get yourself a ticket. Who knows, you could be a millionaire next week!

    If you would like to know more about playing the lotteries, after visiting the websites, please email your questions to alim@theuklive.com.

    Thank you for playing with Vegas Sky Casino, we value your support. We hope you also find our lottery sites interesting and win yourself one of those massive jackpots.

    Warmest Regards,

    Isabella Rothman

    Casino Manager
    support@vegasskycasino.com
    xhttp://www.vegasskycasino.com
    WTF?

    Did anyone else get one of these? If so, is the "cid" in the links the same as mine? (i.e. is it also 31)?



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    WTF is right! Why do these programs continue to think this is ok to do!

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    Following up on this thread... Did anyone else receive the cross-marketing mailer from Vegas Sky, or was I the only one?

    If someone from Vegas Sky could comment on this, too, that would be great. Thanks!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Engineer View Post
    Following up on this thread... Did anyone else receive the cross-marketing mailer from Vegas Sky, or was I the only one?

    If someone from Vegas Sky could comment on this, too, that would be great. Thanks!
    I haven't gotten this one... All I get from them is a weekly mailer saying 'You've sent Players!' Even though I haven't sent any players

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    Quote Originally Posted by Engineer View Post
    Following up on this thread... Did anyone else receive the cross-marketing mailer from Vegas Sky, or was I the only one?

    If someone from Vegas Sky could comment on this, too, that would be great. Thanks!
    Nope, I didn't and I've been playing there since they opened and get emails from them all the time. Could be though because I'm located in the states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guard Dog View Post
    I haven't gotten this one... All I get from them is a weekly mailer saying 'You've sent Players!' Even though I haven't sent any players
    Me too. Didnt get this one. This is crazy!!!!
    I also get the mailer " You've sent players" which makes no sense. Other rivals send you a report each week (mondays) with the number of players you've sent in the previous week.


    I have sent Ian from Vegas Sky a message alerting him to this thread

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    Yeah, I love getting the useless "How much have you made?" emails. Instead of including the details right there in the message like other Rival programs, Vegas Sky tells you to "log into your affiliate account" to see how much you've made.



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    Alright, I've just had a chat with one of the owners at Vegas Sky regarding this. This is what he had to say...

    Vegas Sky says:
    Unfortunately this is quite simple......

    Vegas Sky says:
    I asked marketing to come up a way of cross marketing the lottery to the casino and working with Rival to find out how aff tags can be mapped back to players sent from the casino to the lottery and tying them up to the aff structure on the lottery and paying affs out on this basis. I made it clearer than daylight to present to me the plan of this exercise.......
    Vegas Sky says:
    so I could veto the plan and ensure all angles were covered. I was unavailable on most of this week and an internal marketing manager took it on his own cognence to get "his side going" quickly and prepared the mailer and sent it out........
    Vegas Sky says:
    Nothing was supposed to happen until the 29th if March as we are still in an agreement on the lottery side with a network....so this guy was completely out of line.......
    Vegas Sky says:
    Part 2 of this cross marketing was to punt the lottery sites to all the affiliates at the end of the month, following us completing our agreement with company X and working with our existing aff to help us with the lottery sites......
    Vegas Sky says:
    I have viewed this in such a serious light that this manager has been removed from the company with immediate effect.....so look out for some bad posts from an unhappy employee...nothing I can do though, I had to take action......
    Vegas Sky says:
    I have also instructed our tech team to map back all players registered and deposited ont eh lottery site to map them back to the casino affiliate and add them to thats affs revenue stream....
    Vegas Sky says:
    Other than a big apology for someone doing something completely out of line, we can only make good where one of our (ex) employees have erred.

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    I've received the email. I also receive the useless "you have new players" email...which are never there. With that said, atleast I'm getting some type of email from them. Communication is horrid....takes 7+ days for a email repsonse, etc, etc, etc. Along with other issues we've encountered, we no longer promote them.

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