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    Important This Is Vegas Not Paying Player 80K Win?

    This thread here at OCS was just brought to our attention and I know myself and others would certainly like to know what is really going on with this player situation where This Is Vegas is refusing to pay a player an $80,000 win especially since myself and many others are still actively promoting you guys...

    The thread at OCS was started on July 15th and today at Casinomeister!

    Rival Casino - This is Vegas - owe me 80,000

    http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...tml#post383383

    Could you please respond here "This Is Vegas" to let all of your marketing partners know and hear your side of the story?

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    I would like to know as well TIV because from what I am told in private about this whole situation it seems to me your using strong arm tactics to not pay this legit casino win! Shame that Rival cannot set up a central distribution system such as the one that RTG has set up.

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    Sad but not unexpected. Knowing that the owner of this joint was almost bankrupt a few months back explains a lot.

    This Is Vegas = Vegas Days = Rockbet = same owner.

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    Red face

    This is a very complicated issue because the player has an account with a charge back history on another casino powered by Rival. All the Rival casinos share details about players with bad history (chargebacks, money laundering...).

    Here is the expalantion of the player about the issue in the system of SlotoCash posted on another forum.

    "So the issue with Sloto Cash - I had been playing at Sloto Cash for quite a few months prior to registering with TIV (I liked or used to like Rival Games). One day Sloto send me an email saying that they received chargebacks from a credit card I had apparently used and wanted me to contact the bank to return those chargebacks. Problem was, the credit card was not mine, there was no way I could contact a bank I did not have an account or credit card with so obviously there was some type of fraudulent activity happening with my account through someone else. Sloto Cash and I came to the resolution that my account would be frozen (I had over $5,000 in my account with them at the time) and they would allow me to play again in three months to ensure that there was no more fraudulent activity on my Sloto account. We came to an agreement which both parties agreed to.""


    However, it looks that the problem with SlotoCash was resolved at the moment when a new account in This is Vegas was created. TIV accepted the player's deposit and allowed him to play. The winnings are legit since the bonus T&C were fulfilled.

    There are two possible scenarios of what happened and TIV failed in handling both of them.

    1st- if this is a fraudelent player why TIV allowed the deposit or at least why did not issue a refund of the funds immediately.

    2nd - if this is a legit player why TIV is refusing to pay, but instead is trying to make stories based on old issue that was resolved?

    I hope that someone from TIV will post a reply here.

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    I am going to watch this very carefully. If TIV refuses payment and there is no legitimate reason for it, then they will be rogued just like 1Club Casino (Rich Clicks) was for this same reason. Yes, this means all properties tied to the owner will be rogued - not just TIV.

    I'm sick that players are being denied their winnings. It's bad enough that players have to deal with $5k/month or less for winnings payments - but when legitimate winnings are outright being denied, it is considered Rogue (well, by me anyway).

    Take a WILD guess why Vegas will put ALL of these casinos out of business when they are able to come online?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guard Dog View Post
    but when legitimate winnings are outright being denied, it is considered Rogue (well, by me anyway).

    Take a WILD guess why Vegas will put ALL of these casinos out of business when they are able to come online?
    EXACTLY on both counts. Sure hope TIV has the integrity to come here and post about this issue.

    Otherwise it may not end up purdy, hope it does turn out well for the player but it ain't lookin good.
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    Something more than a bit fishy about this player's story.
    Firstly his description of his play on that slot doesn't sound right at all; wagers too high and expanding wilds where there shouldn't be any.
    But also he mentions someone else using a credit card (which was NOT his) to fund HIS Sloto'Cash account... How does that work then?
    Finally it turns out this happened many MONTHS ago - why only bring it up now?

    Hopefully Max can get to the bottom of it all.

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    KK I believe the player has been working with affiliate he downloaded the casino from in private for this long time. Not every single player online is aware of forums. I was approached as a member of AGD and asked for advice on how to handle this player, so I referred them to Casino Meister naturally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladi View Post
    Sad but not unexpected. Knowing that the owner of this joint was almost bankrupt a few months back explains a lot.

    This Is Vegas = Vegas Days = Rockbet = same owner.
    Say what! ??

    There's those in the affiliate community that know or are aware or have heard rumors of this info and have not stepped forward previously to warn other affiliates that are promoting these casinos?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGamblingGuru
    Say what! ??

    There's those in the affiliate community that know or are aware or have heard rumors of this info and have not stepped forward previously to warn other affiliates that are promoting these casinos?
    John has been on the rocks (ya the pun was intended) for some time.
    I dropped them last winter when he was having problems paying winners and affs and he decided not to pay affs for progressives.
    I thought this was common knowledge...

    I was kinda surprized to find out so many people still promote them.

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