This Is Vegas Not Paying Player 80K Win?

[tryme1]

So, John is actually the owner of TiV and RockBet? My understanding was that he was just the affiliate manager and, in fact, is no longer even that.

Quick derail: love the new design and layout. I clicked 'post reply' and found myself in a very different looking forum. Looks good.

[Guard Dog]

So, John is actually the owner of TiV and RockBet? My understanding was that he was just the affiliate manager and, in fact, is no longer even that.

I've had both impressions of John I don't know which is the truth anymore!

Quick derail: love the new design and layout. I clicked 'post reply' and found myself in a very different looking forum. Looks good.

Yep, you got a sneak preview

[tryme1]

Well, it looks fantastic to me. Even though I'm using a super high resolution (1680 x 1050) it's still super clear for me.

've had both impressions of John I don't know which is the truth anymore!

Me neither. There's a lot wrong with this industry right now. The whole UIGEA thing has actually had a seriously adverse impact on how American gamblers are treated by online casinos.

This $80,000 seizure of, what to my mind, appears to be a legitimate win is just the latest example.

[inspiration]

Just my quick observation :

I don't know the details of it...... but once I hear "charge back player" that tells me a lot ... normal players don't allow charges to be made on a CC and then go to the bank and say they didn't allow it .... it isn't what honest people do. Rival may have a ton of issues, but I have yet to hear them not pay an honest player.

[Vladi]

Said person is the owner, not the affiliate manager, consultant or whatever else he is pretending these days.

[TheGamblingGuru]

Said person is the owner, not the affiliate manager, consultant or whatever else he is pretending these days.

Vladi, thanks for the info. If this really is true then it will have a devastating impact on said casinos. Are you like 99.9% certain of this? Is your source of this info truly reliable? I'm not doubting your word here but would just like this confirmed, maybe even once more by another affiliate as well.

PM me if you like, I would appreciate that.
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[lots0]

I am 100% certain that John is the owner(or one of the owners), as he told me he was...
So he is the owner, unless he is a liar and stupid and I don't think he is either one of those things.

Again I thought this was common knowledge, as he (John) never hid the fact he was the owner, at least from me, and as far as I know he has never denied owning TIV.

[Vladi]

100% sure. Straight from the horse's mouth.

[bb1webs]

unless he is a liar and stupid

I don't think he's a liar, but despite how much knowledge he obviously has, I wouldn't rule out stupid as a potential because I found his approach to dealing with affs, .. first quite impressive, then quite .... stupid.

His patience for dealing with that which isn't going his way ... was almost non-existent, which from my POV was a very bad trait for an AM, finding out he owned the properties explains how he kept his job as AM when I clearly would have replaced him with someone more comfortable with dealing with people, forsake no matter how good he was at everything else.

[bonustreak]

John is the owner and I heard he was stepping back to let others run his brands but he is the owner no doubt. I only promote 2 of the casinos in the 400 group as of a yr now since all this crazy shit went down and those are Paradise8 and Cocoa because I know that Jason is honest and not out to screw affiliates or the players. Shame of it is, 400 has 4 brands with different owners so they are stuck with one another, I think to save good brands these 2 good casinos need to leave the other 2 evil casinos... I bet if they had to do it all over again they would not all go into business with each other again!

I stopped promotion of TIV , Rockbet etc when John started getting shady and banning every damn player that won on his brands or any other Rivals that he was told players were winning on. He was once someone I called a friend.... silly me!