Stats Since Migrations

[darmac]

Hi, Since Share, Mondial, Villento and Rich Reels were migrated to Rewards I have not earned a penny. I find that odd as almost monthly I received payments from them under the original affiliate programs. Could there have been a mistake in the migration? I have not received a payment from RA in over a year now. Is there a way you can check to see that all my old players were indeed migrated to your site? Thanks for any help, I just find this so odd.

[Redbush54]

GamTrak is in the very same situation as you. We got revenue the first month and then nothing.

[KasinoKing]

I'm afraid Rewards Affiliates must be considered as "dodgy" at best.
It's a great shame because Renee is a super AM and the group has got so much potential for affiliates, but it seems they would rather "screw" us and just try to make as much as they can by their own means.

My advice is to stop promoting them, as I did recently.
It's just not worth it when there are much more reputable brands to work with.
It's hard enough to earn a buck in this game as it is, without wasting time & effort only to feel cheated at the end.

KK

[Renee]

Hi, Since Share, Mondial, Villento and Rich Reels were migrated to Rewards I have not earned a penny. I find that odd as almost monthly I received payments from them under the original affiliate programs. Could there have been a mistake in the migration? I have not received a payment from RA in over a year now. Is there a way you can check to see that all my old players were indeed migrated to your site? Thanks for any help, I just find this so odd.

Looking at the data I have, I'm not sure how you came to this conclusion.

I find the comment about not earning a penny since taking over a bit rough considering you have around the same amount earned on your darmac account from an old PLP player this month that you used to earn with that group (see 5th May). Player date joined: October 22, 2008. So it looks like your players were in fact mapped correctly. You can see this info by drilling down into your player stats. Let me know if you need help with that.

Your Vegas affiliates players and your villento players were mapped to an account with username drewbear since that was the matching email to those accounts, although if I look at the last 6 months of your vegas affiliates stats, the total commission earned was $0, and on the villento brands, the last 6 months total earnings before we took over was $205.92 (the last 2 months being $0) so it's not surprising there is no commission earned from those players.

I have posted this info simply because a claim was made that we did not map players correctly and that there were earnings before taking over, when by looking at the data I have this is not the case.

Redbush - I have a feeling gamtrak did email me about this, but I will go through my emails and see if I can find it. If not, I will also go through to see which accounts the players were mapped to so we can be sure they were not mapped to a different account also.

I will wholely admit that there are accounts that were earning before we took over that are either not earning as much now or are earning 0, but we have seen this across the board, not just with players who have signed up through affiliates. And I have mentioned it on several occasions. There are also affiliates who have most of their players still playing and we have even managed to get dormant accounts playing again. So it seems to be one of those things where only the bad is getting posted.

@KK - Thanks for the compliment

[Ukjeff]

I was almost going to promote these guys. Having read your comments aka "dodgy" i will not promote them. @KK Thanks for the honest non compliments about them.

I'm afraid Rewards Affiliates must be considered as "dodgy" at best.
It's a great shame because Renee is a super AM and the group has got so much potential for affiliates, but it seems they would rather "screw" us and just try to make as much as they can by their own means.

My advice is to stop promoting them, as I did recently.
It's just not worth it when there are much more reputable brands to work with.
It's hard enough to earn a buck in this game as it is, without wasting time & effort only to feel cheated at the end.

KK

[darmac]

Renee, I am just saying my last payment from RA Was in April of 2011 and every month my dashboard has been zero balance. This month is showing $65. I made decent earnings with Mondial and Share and now nothing. I do find that odd. I was just wondering if it was happening to anyone else

[inspiration]

I was almost going to promote these guys. Having read your comments aka "dodgy" i will not promote them. @KK Thanks for the honest non compliments about them.

Hi Jeff, KK

I have compiled somthing you should read maybe this will help to understand how they work :

Rewards Affiliates Shaving with Cross Promotion | Rogue Casino Programs

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1. With regard to mapping over players I can confirm all seems to be ok to me.
2. Grand Mondial and etc from the former Playshare Group had different bonuses, retention so if your players do not like the CR group than you have bad luck.
3. It is no secret RA is sending players promos from their other casinos and newsletters which do not include our affiliate btag.
4. Players will probably have more player accounts due to this, a lot will play under the CR btag as they are exposed to receiving their bonus promos from the entire group.

[ocportal]

Over the last 5 years I have not seen any other online casino group spamming so strong as RA.
From an Affiliate perspective it's not enough to just remove them, I believe players need to be warned about such online casino groups.
Their AM's are great but not that great as if they would they would be working for a FAIR TRADING COMPANY.

[darmac]

Hi Jeff, KK

I have compiled somthing you should read maybe this will help to understand how they work :

Rewards Affiliates Shaving with Cross Promotion | Rogue Casino Programs

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1. With regard to mapping over players I can confirm all seems to be ok to me.
2. Grand Mondial and etc from the former Playshare Group had different bonuses, retention so if your players do not like the CR group than you have bad luck.
3. It is no secret RA is sending players promos from their other casinos and newsletters which do not include our affiliate btag.
4. Players will probably have more player accounts due to this, a lot will play under the CR btag as they are exposed to receiving their bonus promos from the entire group.

Wow thanks for the link (which lead to many more links) Things are much clearer now

[Renee]

Hi Jeff, KK

I have compiled somthing you should read maybe this will help to understand how they work :

Rewards Affiliates Shaving with Cross Promotion | Rogue Casino Programs

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1. With regard to mapping over players I can confirm all seems to be ok to me.
2. Grand Mondial and etc from the former Playshare Group had different bonuses, retention so if your players do not like the CR group than you have bad luck.
3. It is no secret RA is sending players promos from their other casinos and newsletters which do not include our affiliate btag.
4. Players will probably have more player accounts due to this, a lot will play under the CR btag as they are exposed to receiving their bonus promos from the entire group.

You definitely have something to complain about considering you had your best month ever with us last month and you promote us very heavily on your site despite telling everyone else not to. Good to see you follow your own advice.

Over the last 5 years I have not seen any other online casino group spamming so strong as RA.
From an Affiliate perspective it's not enough to just remove them, I believe players need to be warned about such online casino groups.
Their AM's are great but not that great as if they would they would be working for a FAIR TRADING COMPANY.

I find your post very ironic.


These threads turning into flames that contain the same info over and over after I reply to a post are getting old.
If a question can't be answered on the forums without crucification, then I don't see any reason to participate. I have email, chat and phone. If there are questions perhaps they can be directed there moving forward.