Rivalwide Progressive Issue - Rogue Poll.

[dendrite]

Conversions, of course, depend on your visitor demographics, the way your site looks and feels, the search terms visitors use to find your site etc.

For me, Rival has given me the best conversions by far over the past year. In fact, my best Rival casinos give me a four-fold better conversion rate than my best RTG does. I know for others that isn't the case, but that's the way it's turned out for me

In my opinion, the fewer companies there are in the US market, the more dangerous it becomes for affiliates. If choice is severely restricted, then the casinos have you over a barrel.

There is no doubt in my mind that if there was only one single US facing casino out there to promote, they would be tempted to offer only very low rev share, they would be taking progressives contributions, enforcing negative carryover and possibly applying minimum sign-up terms too

Having plenty of casinos and softwares we can choose from is very important, imo. That is why I am hoping Rival step up to the plate and allow the AMs to give affiliates the progressives money back. I think most good AMs want to do exactly that

So, I am now waiting to see what happens.

I'm optimistic that the best AMs out there will be doing the right thing and refunding these progressive contributions

[dendrite]

Just saw your post, Belgamo - great stuff!

[Guard Dog]

That's great news from the 400 Group! Thanks Jason and thanks Belgamo for posting.

March and forward are my concerns along with how affiliates are responsible for processor confiscations as well. Those are the only remaining issues, but it sounds like it may be a positive outcome afterall.

I just hope the affiliate programs are not getting shafted by Rival and having to cover ALL costs. Rival should be covering some of this stuff, IMO. Especially the processor issue - which is THEIR problem.

[dendrite]

and as if my magic, more news...

Dear Affiliates,

After weeks of discussions with Rival and other white labels in the network, it’s been agreed that each program can decide which action to take when it comes to previously deducted progressive contributions. After studying the situation, and concluding that this was a retroactive change in affiliate contracts, Superior Share will be returning all previous deductions of progressive contributions. We will credit back all past affiliate progressive contributions from February 2009 until March 2010. A more detailed timeline for this is forthcoming.

We are still working on the final details of the progressive system going forward. We have discussed this with many of you, we’ve taken your feedback, and we’re working closely with Rival to come up with a system that will benefit both parties, you as our partner, and our operation as well.

We will be giving you further information regarding the contributions reimbursement schedule and full details on the new system as soon as they become available.

Master Card Issue:

For all of you who were affected by the MasterCard issue, we are extending to you a 10% EXTRA Commission on ALL your new signups during the months of April, May and June of the current year. We encourage you to upgrade your marketing campaigns, so you can better take advantage of this unique incentive. Along with further notices this month, we will be releasing our newest marketing materials and exclusive promotions, so you can better design your campaigns.

Once again, we appreciate your feedback and understanding on these matters. It hasn’t been easy but we know that a serious consideration of the current problems, together with the feedback of our valuable partners, will bring favorable solutions for all.

Thank you and we’ll be in touch very soon.

With best regards,

Paul Art

Affiliate Director
Superior Share Affiliate Program

[slotplayer]

There is no doubt in my mind that if there was only one single US facing casino out there to promote, they would be tempted to offer only very low rev share, they would be taking progressives contributions, enforcing negative carryover and possibly applying minimum sign-up terms too

We see those now. The impression I get is:
I don't see how programs can continue to sustain paying a 30%+ commission without mitigating costs some how (especially with this new economy and the recent mc problems) unless they incorporate some cost cutting measures like nco, bundling, progressive contribs, wagering, minimums or a sub-set thereof. Notice its the programs that have nco or a wagering model that can afford to open new casinos with few exceptions.

But then it's only an observation and I really am clueless as to what goes on behind the scenes.

[dendrite]

We see those now.

Yes, we see those now, but we don't see ALL the programs doing it.

I think it's healthy to have a choice

For example, CWC enforce negative carry-over. They have some great casinos, but if we want we can choose to promote c-planet, or Winpalace, or any number of other groups that don't enforce it

Competition means choice, imo

[nitro]

In my opinion, the fewer companies there are in the US market, the more dangerous it becomes for affiliates. If choice is severely restricted, then the casinos have you over a barrel.

In my opinion the less gamblers are scared off by a joke operation like rival the more money will flow towards the affiliates. If choice is severely restricted to companies like 3dice or 32red you can be assured that you'll get a fair treatment and not get screwed over constantly and therefore there is no need to consider similar measures that are applied right now to outfits a la rival.

[nitro]

I think it's healthy to have a choice

Absolutely. Get rid of 2/3 of the rivals that are now on the scene and let the rest run like 3dice and no one will play in CWC Casinos...

[nitro]

March and forward are my concerns along with how affiliates are responsible for processor confiscations as well. Those are the only remaining issues, but it sounds like it may be a positive outcome afterall.

It will be a positive outcome but you have to watch out for the rival guard dogs and consider them your enemy.

[dendrite]

If choice is severely restricted to companies like 3dice or 32red you can be assured that you'll get a fair treatment and not get screwed over constantly and therefore there is no need to consider similar measures that are applied right now to outfits a la rival.

- 32red does not accept US players

- 3dice doesn't seem to be taking on new affiliates

Not much good for those of us that promote to the US market and haven't been invited to be part of the 3dice program

I know what you mean, though, they are both excellent programs, if you lucky enough to be able to promote them to your visitors