Search Today's Posts AGD Members Register Now (Free)
Recent Affiliate Payments
Intertops Sep 2nd
CWC Affiliates (Club World) Sep 2nd
Slotocash Affiliates Sep 1st
AffiliateWIDE Sep 1st
Poker Host Sep 1st
PDC Affiliates Sep 1st
BetPhoenix Affiliates Sep 1st
Vegas Affiliates Aug 28th
Enter Your Recent Payments
Latest Posts
Thread    Date, Time  Posted By  Replies  Views   Forum
Old "For Love and Money" Video Slot Revamped &...  »  09-02, 23:14  SuperiorShare  2  48   Superiorshare
Old This Is Vegas Not Paying Player 80K Win?  »  09-02, 22:42  bb1webs  21  762   400 Affiliates
Old Slots Jungle Denied my $3,000 withdrawal!!  »  09-02, 22:31  bonustreak  19  422   Affactive
Old Just starting out  »  09-02, 22:21  Rhondagrace  6  138   New Casino...
Old $500 Free Word Contest by Bet Phoenix Casino...  »  09-02, 22:18  Rhondagrace  112  949   Free For All -...
Old Should Gambling Companies Tell a Player...  »  09-02, 21:24  Rhondagrace  3  58   AGD RoundTable...
Old Question to Affiliates  »  09-02, 20:53  slotplayer  7  200   AGD RoundTable...
Old no payment due to min referral clause betway  »  09-02, 15:15  bb1webs  12  504   AGD RoundTable...
Old Affiliate Payments - September 2010  »  09-02, 14:00  AffiliatePaym...  6  175   Affiliate...
Old 10 permanent links for sale  »  09-02, 10:41  free4gambling  6  102   Link Sales and...

Go Back   Affiliate Guard Dog > Casino Affiliate Forums > AGD RoundTable Discussion Forum

AGD Roudtable Discussions

Reply

Rival needs to create better slots - AGD RoundTable Discussion Forum
Discussion Started on: February 2, 2010 Number of replies: 21 Number of views: 1116

 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 02-02-2010
Guard Dog's Avatar
Guard Dog
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 3,292
Thanks: 994
Thanked 1,457 Times in 759 Posts
Blog Entries: 1
Send a message via Skype™ to Guard Dog
Rival needs to create better slots
The latest Rival slot is pretty crappy, IMHO. I hate complaining so much about Rival, lately, but they just seem to be getting it all wrong and it is hitting me right in the pocketbook.

Wacky Wedding is a decent theme, but the bonus rounds might as well not even be there. Here is my play so far:

Playing for $2.00 / spin, I got 10 bonus rounds in several hours worth of play. Here is what I won:

$20, $16, $20, $22, $20, $80, $24, $22, $20, $20

So, that equals a 10x Bonus win for most of the wins. The Free spins were even worse with most wins < $2 after 10 spins.

I understand variance, but this game is not going to bring in good quality slots players!

Seriously.... what's happening at Rival? Are their collective heads stuck in the sand?
_______________________________________ _______________________________________
replied at: 03:30 PM on 02-02-2010
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Guard Dog For This Useful Post:
Bonus Paradise (02-03-2010), bonustreak (02-02-2010), Engineer (02-02-2010)
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 02-02-2010
bonustreak's Avatar
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,508
Thanks: 990
Thanked 691 Times in 364 Posts
Default

Rival needs to do a lot of things to get their acts together!
_______________________________________ _______________________________________
replied at: 09:18 PM on 02-02-2010
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to bonustreak For This Useful Post:
Bonus Paradise (02-03-2010), Engineer (02-02-2010), fccash (02-02-2010)
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 02-03-2010
Affiliate Guard Dog Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 258
Thanks: 404
Thanked 177 Times in 98 Posts
Default

I tried this slot yesterday in fun mode
and totally agree with Andy,
the slot is a pure joke - you be bored very fast.
I did also hit a few times the bonus rounds and the best was so 2600 coins - 26$ on a bet of $2.
Then I had 2 times the free spins, one time on a bet of $20 (max. bet) it did pay me a whopping $12. Absolute pffffffffff.

I do not play very often at Rival Casinos, the reason is
I get very fast bored of the slots, there is NO excitement.
_______________________________________ _______________________________________
replied at: 02:48 AM on 02-03-2010
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Bonus Paradise For This Useful Post:
bonustreak (02-03-2010), WCD Admin (02-07-2010)
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 02-03-2010
KasinoKing's Avatar
Player turned affiliate.
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: England - the REAL land of the free...
Posts: 239
Thanks: 136
Thanked 149 Times in 107 Posts
Default

Though I haven't played this one yet, I have read about it - and I'm going to defend Rival for a change!

A player posted his stats on Wacky Weddings at CM - and he hit a bonus feature (bonus or free-spins) once every 28 spins...
Now obviously these can't pay very big if they're going to hit that often.

Seems to me Rival have tried to appease the players who are always moaning "I did 150 spins and hit NO features... what a crock of shite!"
You CAN'T have everything - either you have high variance with very long gaps between decent wins (Bet x 100+), or you have low variance with loads of very small wins.
This one sounds like it's very LOW variance - as as long as it achieves the specified 94% RTP (that's a bit low! ) then players shouldn't really complain; if you don't like low variance slots - don't play them!

KK
_______________________________________
Daily Slots Player, Bonus Bandit, Golf Lover & Webmaster...
KasinoKing.co.uk
Slot Beaters ~ USA OK Casinos ~ Arcade Slots Online ~ Rival Gaming Slots
_______________________________________
replied at: 09:05 AM on 02-03-2010
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to KasinoKing For This Useful Post:
bonustreak (02-03-2010), Nicolas-Johnson (02-06-2010)
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 02-03-2010
Affiliate Guard Dog Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 258
Thanks: 404
Thanked 177 Times in 98 Posts
Default

Quote:
This one sounds like it's very LOW variance - as as long as it achieves the specified 94% RTP (that's a bit low! ) then players shouldn't really complain; if you don't like low variance slots - don't play them!
Great, now tell this someone who just discovered online casinos and is excited to try his luck. They have no clue what is 94% RTP and high or low variance, all they want is having some entertainment and maybe get lucky.

In the case of such slots, they just might say.....
Online Casinos - never again!
_______________________________________ _______________________________________
replied at: 09:26 AM on 02-03-2010
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Bonus Paradise For This Useful Post:
bonustreak (02-03-2010)
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 02-03-2010
Herd's Avatar
Affiliate Guard Dog Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 45
Thanks: 6
Thanked 19 Times in 14 Posts
Money

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guard Dog View Post
Playing for $2.00 / spin, I got 10 bonus rounds in several hours worth of play. Here is what I won:

$20, $16, $20, $22, $20, $80, $24, $22, $20, $20
And I thought you were all work and no play!
replied at: 11:29 AM on 02-03-2010
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 02-03-2010
Guard Dog's Avatar
Guard Dog
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 3,292
Thanks: 994
Thanked 1,457 Times in 759 Posts
Blog Entries: 1
Send a message via Skype™ to Guard Dog
Default

Trust me.... this one WAS work

I actually play the slots that I put on my sites. I have to play to be able to tell possible players the 'real deal'. So, I screenshot while I play.
_______________________________________ _______________________________________
replied at: 10:38 PM on 02-03-2010
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Guard Dog For This Useful Post:
bonustreak (02-07-2010)
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 02-03-2010
Herd's Avatar
Affiliate Guard Dog Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 45
Thanks: 6
Thanked 19 Times in 14 Posts
Default

Ahhh like me drinking beer to ensure quality control is up to standard. I like the way you think, we both an affinity for perfection!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guard Dog View Post
Trust me.... this one WAS work

I actually play the slots that I put on my sites. I have to play to be able to tell possible players the 'real deal'. So, I screenshot while I play.
replied at: 10:59 PM on 02-03-2010
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 02-06-2010
Nicolas-Johnson's Avatar
Affiliate Program Representative
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 108
Thanks: 107
Thanked 154 Times in 65 Posts
Send a message via AIM to Nicolas-Johnson Send a message via MSN to Nicolas-Johnson Send a message via Skype™ to Nicolas-Johnson
Default Not all Rivals are the same

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonus Paradise View Post
Great, now tell this someone who just discovered online casinos and is excited to try his luck. They have no clue what is 94% RTP and high or low variance, all they want is having some entertainment and maybe get lucky.

In the case of such slots, they just might say.....
Online Casinos - never again!
Well, that is the reason Rival casinos should NOT be discussed as if they are all the same. Imagine doing that with RTG!

Yes, this is a low variance casino. Yes, you won't see monster wins like on Scary Rich. But as KK pointed out, you get them more often.

Some people may like this slot (low variance), some people may like scary (high variance), that is why we have both, so we give players an option. Just like with our bonuses, we have high % bonuses with higher restrictions, and lower % bonuses with lower restrictions.

Some people will be offended at the fact that we offer one thing or another they don't like (some people criticize our high bonuses for the restrictions, others criticize our low restriction bonuses for being low %). But that is normal. We can't please everyone all the time. The most we can hope to do is please most people most of the time. And based on our conversion rates and retention, it seems we at Vegas Regal Casino are doing something right.

We give these options to cater to ALL types of players. And since we really work on our retention, if someone played this slot, lost and didn't like it, you won't have to worry because we will make sure to get that player playing again, on a different game. And we will generally do so on a free chip, so it is unlikely players will refuse.

There are definitively things we need to work on. We are aware and are working on issues like payout times, which we want to get down to 24 hours. But I'm not sure I see a concrete point of critique that I can bring up to management and get fixed (I'm not saying there isn't, just that I don't see it). The only thing I kinda see from this thread is we shouldn't have low variance games (or games with SUCH low variance). If this is the case, then we will definitively do an internal investigation on customer satisfaction on slots with different levels of variance and adjust our game repertoire accordingly. But I'm not sure if I'm understanding correctly.

If I'm missing it, then please let me know. We really want to improve and we know you guys and gals are the people we should (and are) listening to!

Kind Regards,
Nicolas Johnson
_______________________________________
Kind Regards,
Nicolas Johnson
Bet Phoenix Casino Affiliates Manager
_______________________________________
replied at: 08:33 PM on 02-06-2010
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Nicolas-Johnson For This Useful Post:
bonustreak (02-07-2010)
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 02-07-2010
Affiliate Guard Dog Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 258
Thanks: 404
Thanked 177 Times in 98 Posts
Default

Quote:
Well, that is the reason Rival casinos should NOT be discussed as if they are all the same. Imagine doing that with RTG!
At Bonus Paradise we do our best to NOT discuss Rival or any other softwares as each casino would be the same. We create also polls and ask our members which Rival do you like most and why. Believe me, we try to make sure to find out which one is better than another and we also recommend the better ones.

The slots could be made better this is a fact,
also the standard message which pops up if you have the free spins is a bit boring.

I know that Vegas Regal has a good retention, players keep coming back to play, no doubt.

Still, I hope Rival will bring some diffrent games in the near future.
_______________________________________ _______________________________________
replied at: 05:10 AM on 02-07-2010
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Bonus Paradise For This Useful Post:
bonustreak (02-07-2010), Nicolas-Johnson (02-09-2010)
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On








Affiliate Convention

      AGD Icon Legend

  Terms Approved
Terms and Conditions Certified by AGD as 'Affiliate-Friendly'.
  Terms are Predatory
Terms and Conditions are considered 'Predatory' (Not good for Affiliates).
  Terms have warnings
Terms and Conditions are Certified but have a warning on one of the terms.
  Terms not verified
Terms and Conditions are have not yet been reviewed.
  New Affiliate Program
Warning - New Affiliate Program. No proven track record.
  Affiliate Program Closed
Program is closed / out of business.
  Casinos are Bundled
Program Bundles Earnings on their casnio properties.
  Negative Carryover
Program Carrys Over Negative Earnings.
  Pays On Time
Program pays their affiliates consistently on time.
  Pays Late
Program pays late or irregularly


iGaming Profits. Multi-currency Rival casino. 30% Revshare, up to $300 CPA


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:24 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.3.0
vB.Sponsors


no new posts