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Rival needs to create better slots
The latest Rival slot is pretty crappy, IMHO. I hate complaining so much about Rival, lately, but they just seem to be getting it all wrong and it is hitting me right in the pocketbook.

Wacky Wedding is a decent theme, but the bonus rounds might as well not even be there. Here is my play so far:

Playing for $2.00 / spin, I got 10 bonus rounds in several hours worth of play. Here is what I won:

$20, $16, $20, $22, $20, $80, $24, $22, $20, $20

So, that equals a 10x Bonus win for most of the wins. The Free spins were even worse with most wins < $2 after 10 spins.

I understand variance, but this game is not going to bring in good quality slots players!

Seriously.... what's happening at Rival? Are their collective heads stuck in the sand?
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Rival needs to do a lot of things to get their acts together!
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I tried this slot yesterday in fun mode
and totally agree with Andy,
the slot is a pure joke - you be bored very fast.
I did also hit a few times the bonus rounds and the best was so 2600 coins - 26$ on a bet of $2.
Then I had 2 times the free spins, one time on a bet of $20 (max. bet) it did pay me a whopping $12. Absolute pffffffffff.

I do not play very often at Rival Casinos, the reason is
I get very fast bored of the slots, there is NO excitement.
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Though I haven't played this one yet, I have read about it - and I'm going to defend Rival for a change!

A player posted his stats on Wacky Weddings at CM - and he hit a bonus feature (bonus or free-spins) once every 28 spins...
Now obviously these can't pay very big if they're going to hit that often.

Seems to me Rival have tried to appease the players who are always moaning "I did 150 spins and hit NO features... what a crock of shite!"
You CAN'T have everything - either you have high variance with very long gaps between decent wins (Bet x 100+), or you have low variance with loads of very small wins.
This one sounds like it's very LOW variance - as as long as it achieves the specified 94% RTP (that's a bit low! ) then players shouldn't really complain; if you don't like low variance slots - don't play them!

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This one sounds like it's very LOW variance - as as long as it achieves the specified 94% RTP (that's a bit low! ) then players shouldn't really complain; if you don't like low variance slots - don't play them!
Great, now tell this someone who just discovered online casinos and is excited to try his luck. They have no clue what is 94% RTP and high or low variance, all they want is having some entertainment and maybe get lucky.

In the case of such slots, they just might say.....
Online Casinos - never again!
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Playing for $2.00 / spin, I got 10 bonus rounds in several hours worth of play. Here is what I won:

$20, $16, $20, $22, $20, $80, $24, $22, $20, $20
And I thought you were all work and no play!
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Trust me.... this one WAS work

I actually play the slots that I put on my sites. I have to play to be able to tell possible players the 'real deal'. So, I screenshot while I play.
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Ahhh like me drinking beer to ensure quality control is up to standard. I like the way you think, we both an affinity for perfection!

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I actually play the slots that I put on my sites. I have to play to be able to tell possible players the 'real deal'. So, I screenshot while I play.
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Great, now tell this someone who just discovered online casinos and is excited to try his luck. They have no clue what is 94% RTP and high or low variance, all they want is having some entertainment and maybe get lucky.

In the case of such slots, they just might say.....
Online Casinos - never again!
Well, that is the reason Rival casinos should NOT be discussed as if they are all the same. Imagine doing that with RTG!

Yes, this is a low variance casino. Yes, you won't see monster wins like on Scary Rich. But as KK pointed out, you get them more often.

Some people may like this slot (low variance), some people may like scary (high variance), that is why we have both, so we give players an option. Just like with our bonuses, we have high % bonuses with higher restrictions, and lower % bonuses with lower restrictions.

Some people will be offended at the fact that we offer one thing or another they don't like (some people criticize our high bonuses for the restrictions, others criticize our low restriction bonuses for being low %). But that is normal. We can't please everyone all the time. The most we can hope to do is please most people most of the time. And based on our conversion rates and retention, it seems we at Vegas Regal Casino are doing something right.

We give these options to cater to ALL types of players. And since we really work on our retention, if someone played this slot, lost and didn't like it, you won't have to worry because we will make sure to get that player playing again, on a different game. And we will generally do so on a free chip, so it is unlikely players will refuse.

There are definitively things we need to work on. We are aware and are working on issues like payout times, which we want to get down to 24 hours. But I'm not sure I see a concrete point of critique that I can bring up to management and get fixed (I'm not saying there isn't, just that I don't see it). The only thing I kinda see from this thread is we shouldn't have low variance games (or games with SUCH low variance). If this is the case, then we will definitively do an internal investigation on customer satisfaction on slots with different levels of variance and adjust our game repertoire accordingly. But I'm not sure if I'm understanding correctly.

If I'm missing it, then please let me know. We really want to improve and we know you guys and gals are the people we should (and are) listening to!

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Well, that is the reason Rival casinos should NOT be discussed as if they are all the same. Imagine doing that with RTG!
At Bonus Paradise we do our best to NOT discuss Rival or any other softwares as each casino would be the same. We create also polls and ask our members which Rival do you like most and why. Believe me, we try to make sure to find out which one is better than another and we also recommend the better ones.

The slots could be made better this is a fact,
also the standard message which pops up if you have the free spins is a bit boring.

I know that Vegas Regal has a good retention, players keep coming back to play, no doubt.

Still, I hope Rival will bring some diffrent games in the near future.
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