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Rival needs to create better slots
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Usually I do not like to comment on these threads as I often think they take us far from nowhere (I guess that would place us somewhere, but you get what I am saying).

Relatively, for being a fairly new software, Rival has done a decent job at trying to push something innovative within the industry. Obviously, it will take a bit of time to get everything sorted in a manner that will please all types of gaming styles and preferences; however, the overall output has been pretty good.

Nearly all software providers have taken some heat at some point whether with regards to game-play/selection, unethical practices or even a combination of both. Nonetheless, we do know that the players are what matter in the end and if a casino(s) is able to show their commitment to these players and treat them as a special commodity, then we can allow the software companies to weave through their some of their issues.

We know the player response is excellent on Rival, and if both affiliate programs and casino management can perform on a level that ensures strong communication, courtesy and trust - than ultimately the software will be given time to improve itself and perform on a level that everyone expects it to
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Sorry Steve Rival has been around 2006 long enough to get their act together and I really beg to differ it is exactly threads like these that will show Rival what is going wrong and how they can fix it.

We are in this business to make money and right now affiliates are not making money with Rivals.

Oh and yes players are very important and it is important that they are treated with respect and not called bonus abusers just because they either have got lucky and cashed out a few times or because they have existing accounts at other Rivals, bonus banning them is just silly and a bad business practice plain and simple!
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Its good to talk about these things. I don't play slots, but if they are indeed boring to slots players, then this thread will go somewhere if AM's, operators, etc are paying attention. It really sounds like useful and constructive criticism to me.
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It is definitely disconcerting to hear from affiliates who used to perform on high level with Rival brands but have recently been generating sub-par earnings.

On the other hand, there are still many affiliates who continue to do well promoting Rival and are not be affected by what many have chimed in about here. Again, all Rival brands should not be grouped together as there are those that do not rely on Rival itself to run the show.

The only time I have a go on the slot machines is when I have exhausted the search engines - so it is not that much to be honest. However, when I was working for RTG brands, I was far impressed by the performance and innovation of what Rival had to offer.

As Bernie said - let this thread be used to get something accomplished.

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Just to show you how much good depositing players are loving Rival powered casinos I am posting this there. Here you have a new casino already coming out of the gate and doing all the wrong stuff! How can I as an affiliate earn money with this type of Rival hatred that has built up over time from online gamblers? Totally ridiculous business practice it makes no sense to me at all.
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Just to show you how much good depositing players are loving Rival powered casinos I am posting this there. Here you have a new casino already coming out of the gate and doing all the wrong stuff! How can I as an affiliate earn money with this type of Rival hatred that has built up over time from online gamblers? Totally ridiculous business practice it makes not sense to me at all.
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This is just a note that we at Vegas Regal Casino don't ban (or bonus ban) players for their history at other casinos, only at ours. The only exception are fraud related cases (as in a known charge back client)
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Its good to talk about these things. I don't play slots, but if they are indeed boring to slots players, then this thread will go somewhere if AM's, operators, etc are paying attention. It really sounds like useful and constructive criticism to me.
I play slots every day - and I do mean EVERY day!
Personally I like a lot of Rivals slots - I find them entertaining, fun and often profitable.
Generally they are way better than RTGs slots IMHO, and also better than the majority of MG ones too.
Sure they do have a few bum ones - but so do most softwares I've tried.
If I had to rate all softwares based just on their slots, Rival would be right up there vying for first place with Grand Virtual.

But I guess the old saying is true - you can please some of the people...

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I admit that Vegas Regal is doing a spectacular job but there is one thing I suggest you do different is stop having such large match offers when you attach a 70 times the wager and a min of 2times that to cash out players are annoyed. I think your bonus structure needs a make over to be honest. You should not impose a max cash out at all on the deposit bonuses is my thoughts.


Maybe we should change this thread title to Rival Needs changes
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I admit that Vegas Regal is doing a spectacular job but there is one thing I suggest you do different is stop having such large match offers when you attach a 70 times the wager and a min of 2times that to cash out players are annoyed. I think your bonus structure needs a make over to be honest. You should not impose a max cash out at all on the deposit bonuses is my thoughts.


Maybe we should change this thread title to Rival Needs changes
We do offer bonuses without maximum cash out. They are the low % ones.

The ones you are talking about (70x play through 2x max cash out ON BONUS), are for our huge bonuses. I think those specific ones are for a 600%+ Reload Bonus. So 2x max cash out on bonus is actually 12x max cash out on deposit. I know the restrictions for that bonus are tough, but the amount is huge.

We try to offer both high % bonuses with high restrictions as well as low % bonuses with low restrictions (no max cash out, cashable and play throughs as low as 10x).

Since you brought this up, we will look into putting out more 'no max cash out bonuses'. We are always glad to apply specific suggestions like this one!
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Thanks because I deposited tonight to show my support to you and did not take you up on any of your deposit offers even the 100% match had a max cash out. That turned me off right away to be honest
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