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    Default Is Rival 21 Grand Casino Going Rogue?

    The shit storm that is generated on a weekly basis anymore by some of these 'White-Label Rival Casinos' does not seem to be letting up. Even after Rival Reps have made appearances here at AGD and assured all of us otherwise!

    I just finished reading this new thread over at Casinomeisters Forum where a player posted that they just met the wager requirements on a bonus taken at "21 Grand Casino" and the casino has now denied their winnings because the player did not apparently wager "ENOUGH OVER" the wager requirements of 35X deposit and bonus that was met!

    WTF 21 Grand Casino? Are you guys really ready to go Rogue now? Because this type of behavior is exactly how you will soon get listed on many Rogue Lists, one in particular that has high rankings in the serps!

    Thread can be found here at Casinomeister:

    Bonus Complaint 21Grand Casino "Bonus Abuse" - Casinomeister's Online Casino and Poker Forum

    I am personally at my wits end with some of these "White-Label Rival Casinos" and their continued asinine, and roguish management decisions.

    Rival Corporate, Rival Rep, what do you have to say about this action taken regarding this player and the casinos roguish behavior here regarding this issue?

    Is Rival Corporate concerned at all about the way their licensee's are handling themselves in the public opinion fora?

    Rival Rep, why do you guys constantly let one of your "Licensee's" bring more tarnish to Rival Software Casinos?


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    I haven't read the thread as yet and, to be honest, had never heard of 21 Grand, but I think that - moving forward - anything that isn't SlotOCash, Affiliate Wide Group of Spartan Slots, Box24 and Black Diamond or the BetUS Casino (can't remember the name) has to be removed from my sites.

    This is way, way beyond a joke and the actions of certain Rival casinos are affecting the credibility of their whole brand (including the sites mentioned above) plus the credibility of my sites and everyone else who promotes Rival. Enough is enough. Time to clean up my sites this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tryme1 View Post
    I haven't read the thread as yet and, to be honest, had never heard of 21 Grand, but I think that - moving forward - anything that isn't SlotOCash, Affiliate Wide Group of Spartan Slots, Box24 and Black Diamond or the BetUS Casino (can't remember the name) has to be removed from my sites.

    This is way, way beyond a joke and the actions of certain Rival casinos are affecting the credibility of their whole brand (including the sites mentioned above) plus the credibility of my sites and everyone else who promotes Rival. Enough is enough. Time to clean up my sites this weekend.
    They were Gold Rock Casino before the re-branding last year tryme1. I have to strongly agree with you on this point here for sure...

    "certain Rival casinos are affecting the credibility of their whole brand (including the sites mentioned above) plus the credibility of my sites and everyone else who promotes Rival."

    All of this asinine BS with these 'White-Label Rival Casinos' has to stop and stop now or I will be the first to seriously make it my sole ambition to see to it that new "Rogue SERPS" are generated on a daily basis for each Rival Casino that continues these 'Rogue Practices'

    Enough already!

    I also alerted Best Pay Partners affiliate manager; David Bernstein to this thread. Guess we will see if he makes an appearance here and what he has to say about this latest issue with 21 Grand Casino.

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    Hi guys,

    Investigating this one. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

    Winnings cannot and will not be void if a player meets the wagering requirements. So if this checks out, all winnings will be paid.

    Give me some time to contact the operator and review everything.

    Best regards,

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    Rival Rep can you please check your PM box? I'm still trying to figure out how I can get paid. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rival Rep View Post
    Hi guys,

    Investigating this one. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

    Winnings cannot and will not be void if a player meets the wagering requirements. So if this checks out, all winnings will be paid.

    Give me some time to contact the operator and review everything.

    Best regards,

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    You have an update on this case Rival Rep?
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    Hi guys,

    I got to admit I'm seriously growing tired of reading all the negativity surrounding "most" Rival White Labels. Seriously if it was any other casinos doing 1/2 of what these places have done, they'd be kicked to the curb long ago. Not that it worries me cause I blacklisted all the Rival White Labels back when Tradition pulled its funky blackjack (1:1) BS.

    IMHO it's about time Rival and their wayward white labels towed the line.

    Seriously if Rival gave a toss about the damage these white labels are doing, they'd fix the issues, they are still in control of the software licensing are they not!

    This 21Grand issue a prime example of Rival slackness and white label incompetence at work. How hard is it to pick up the phone, call 21Grand Management and ask WTF is going on - what BS stunt are they pulling!

    Guru has to make a post asking Rival if this issue has been fixed with the player.

    What a Joke

    Edit: sure hope mousey over at CM find this post from Rival about expecting players to not only meet wagering but to play and extra 2 or 3% before they'll approve a withdrawal.

    http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...tml#post388813


    Cheers



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    Does it never end with some of these 'white-labels'?

    Slots Of Fortune are up to the same tricks as discussed above....just posted over at CM...

    Roguish Slotsoffortune (Rival Casino) steals my money - Casinomeister's Online Casino and Poker Forum
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    Also note Rival Rep, there are 1000's of players that read this forum!

    These are just players too, not affiliates.

    It's a week here now since you first responded and told us you were investigating this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGamblingGuru View Post
    Also note Rival Rep, there are 1000's of players that read this forum!

    These are just players too, not affiliates.

    It's a week here now since you first responded and told us you were investigating this one.
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    BUMP AGAIN!!

    Rival Rep, do you really care about your brand or not?

    Tell me why I keep giving you guys this many chances.
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