Revenue Giants gouging affiliates with $40 check fee

[Engineer]

According to this thread, Revenue Giants charges $40 to send a paper check to their affiliates. WTF?! Geez this place has gone downhill since Roo left.

[casinobonusguy]

wires are cheaper!

[MissM]

Engineer, Revenue Giants don't charge $40. it is the payment provider that charges this fee. There are few options to choose from besides papercheck.
and what downhill exactly? Roo's agreement was terminated in mid 2006, I don't remember you had any issues in the last 5 years.

casinobonusguy, indeed, in general there is a fee for a bank wire which is $60 however, we have decided couple of years ago to cover those charges so the only charge would be the charges your bank charge you on a bank wire.

Cheers,
Malci

[casinobonusguy]

I got a wire last month from revenue giants and i don' recall any fees coming off.I have seen great results with revenue giants myself ,in fact they are one of only two bingo programs we work with.

[MissM]

Thanks CasinoBonusGuy for your kind words!
A pleasure working with you as well.

[WCD Admin]

I would suspect that Engineer is probably talking about revenue going down. I know its hit or miss for me with Revenue Giants. We'll have an occasional good month which keeps them on the site. However break down for me in 2011:

Jan - Number 6 in terms of traffic I sent, #18 in terms of revenue
Feb - Number 6 in terms of traffic I sent, #13 in terms of revenue
Mar - Number 6 in terms of traffic I sent, #14 in terms of revenue
April - Number 8 in terms of traffic I sent, #22 in terms of revenue

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2006 - 5th for amount of traffic, 5th for revenue
2007 - 5th for amount of traffic, 3rd for revenue
2008 - 5th for amount of traffic, 9th for revenue
2009 - 6th for amount of traffic, 8th for revenue
2010 - 8th for amount of traffic, 9th for revenue
2011 - 6th for amount of traffic, 17th for revenue

Miss M. - you've always been nice and helped out when I complain but the trend is simply that the clicks aren't worth as much as they were in the past.

Example in 2006 - I only sent 609 visitors - but made more than I did in 2011 so far after sending over 7000 visitors!

In 2007 I made 8x the amount I made this year on the same traffic numbers.

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As to the original post, nobody else charges me for a check. I consider that stuff nickle-n-dime. It just puts you in a bad light with affiliates. You also have a 1000$ minimum payment clause so anyone you're paying with a check should be worth the $40 to you.

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My 2 cents on the matter. Nothing bad on revenue giants, I just understand where The Engineer is coming from.

[tryme1]

Hi WCD Admin,

Are you talking about casino or bingo traffic? The thing, I think, with Revenue Giants, is this: their bingo affiliates, like me, love them because they are the best converting U-S-A facing bingo program. However, it seems that the same doesn't apply to their casino affiliates.

You are going to get some very polarized opinions about Revenue Giants on that basis alone.

I'd be interested to know what traffic you are sending - as it's fairly clear that you're not making the bucks you were.

[WCD Admin]

Good point about comparing them to other programs. I do make most of the $$ from Bingo with RevGiants. And thankfully, too because you're right! It's the only program we make money from on Bingo (or even try really) - so the first part of my analysis is skewed - thanks for catching that.

The second part though

Example in 2006 - I only sent 609 visitors - but made more than I did in 2011 so far after sending over 7000 visitors!

In 2007 I made 8x the amount I made this year on the same traffic numbers.

I'm comparing Rev. Giants to Rev. Giants here, so it seems like a valid comparison .... "2006 seems to be 8x better than 2011"

By the way I'm not mad at Rev Giants and do have their banners up and links to the bingo properties... I just wish I was making $ like I was back in the day with them.

[MissM]

Tryme1 absolutely a good point and thank you, we only in 2011 added proper casino sites, as the truth is we faced reality the Parlay casinos were not working very well, so we were looking to add other casino sites to our portfolio. We added 6 casino sites in Feb 2011 so things shall be better for promoting casinos as well as bingos.

WCD Admin dear dear.. you also forgot a very important aspect in your analysis, 2006 we had Neteller :-) from 2007 most payment providers went down.

I would be happy to go with you on the evaluation and check the information into more details but we must also put things in perspective too my friend.

Regards, Malci

[WCD Admin]

I think tryme1 got it right with the "bingo" issue.

I do have things in perspective: Compared to other programs we built a large base with over the last 5 years or so and make plenty of money on a regular basis. Despite having sent traffic to your properties for the last 5 years (or more) we only make a few hundred or so a month - yes we have some high 3 digits with the occasional 4 digit month in there - but not enough to explain a history that long in my humble opinion. Yes there were pockets of green in there. It's just not consistent or gaining.