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View Poll Results: Is Playshare's retroactive High Roller Term Acceptable?

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  • Playshare Partners' retroactive High Roller Term is acceptable

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  • Playshare Partners' retroactive High Roller Term is not acceptable

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    PlayShare Partners reserves the right to amend, alter, delete or add to any of the provisions of this Agreement, at any time and at its sole discretion, without advance notice to you. Your continued (i) participation in the Program, (ii) use of the PlayShare Partners Affiliate website and/or PlayShare Partners Marketing Tools (as hereafter defined), or (iii) acceptance of any Affiliate commissions from PlayShare Partners confirms your irrevocable acceptance of this Agreement (and any modifications thereto), subject to your continued compliance with the terms and conditions of this Agreement.
    IF ANY MODIFICATION TO THIS AGREEMENT IS UNACCEPTABLE TO YOU, YOUR ONLY RECOURSE AGAINST PLAYSHARE PARTNERS IS TO TERMINATE YOUR PARTICIPATION IN THE PROGRAM.
    This is a nonsense clause that is standard to include to discourage law suits.

    Courts routinely throw this out in favor of general contract law, which states that contracts have to be fulfilled exactly as agreed on. Terms like the above fall in the " invalid, unreasonable and unenforceable " category and are routinely tossed aside.

    In the eyes of the law, a contract is a contract is a contract. Period.
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    Voted - Not acceptable

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    There has been no response from Playshare on this issue depsite the assurances that there would be.

    Quite disappointing - maybe this will wake Lawrence and Playshare up to get that response they promised everyone?

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    For what it's worth they haven't dropped the ball just yet. Lawrence made a point of coming up and asking me for my take on the issue in Pest and it is obvious that it is still a topic back at Playshare HQ, although no indication of outcome was apparent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simmo! View Post
    For what it's worth they haven't dropped the ball just yet. Lawrence made a point of coming up and asking me for my take on the issue in Pest and it is obvious that it is still a topic back at Playshare HQ, although no indication of outcome was apparent.
    That is definitely good to know! Silence becomes deafening after awhile and I would certainly love to put this story to rest.

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    Hi there,

    My most sincere apologies for the lack of communication lately... I know it's not an excuse, but we have been travelling to and from Budapest, getting affiliate payments processed, as well as trying to maintain our service levels. It's not easy

    As Simmo mentioned, we were at BAC, and I did manage to speak to a few people about this particular situation. We are committed to getting this resolved in the fairest possible way but it is going to require some more work and discussion on our side.

    I will endeavor to keep you updated on this forum...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guard Dog View Post
    There has been no response from Playshare on this issue depsite the assurances that there would be.

    Quite disappointing - maybe this will wake Lawrence and Playshare up to get that response they promised everyone?
    Thanks for keeping it on the front burner. I am convinced this will never be answered. Playshare does not want to answer to this.

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    Thanks for keeping it on the front burner. I am convinced this will never be answered. Playshare does not want to answer to this.
    I am sure Lawrence is professional enough to know many of us want an answer lets say before the end of this month and no additional postphonements.

    I will keep his word for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inspiration View Post
    I am sure Lawrence is professional enough to know many of us want an answer lets say before the end of this month and no additional postphonements.

    I will keep his word for it.
    Sorry Inpiration but Playshare can't be trusted because they have changed their terms and contracts with affiliates.

    Any program that changes as they see fit without their partners approval, can't be trusted.

    Changes can't be made retroactively!

    Just my feelings here

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    I knew I would be burried alive by posting that but do you honestly think for one minute program contracts have real value these days? If PSP tells me their contracts were very generous to affiliates but due to overall costs increase e.g. licenses, fees on money transfers, processors, promotions, employees, affiliate share up to 35% and swallow the negatives it would be too much of a challenge rather than a continuity of their business.

    Their future business model needs to uphold the same level of both player and webmaster satisfaction to be competitive and succesful for the long term. Those retro changes itself and the lacking communication certainly have not been the moves of PSP. But moving on I think we do not want PSP to make the ultimate cost cutting decision - closing the affiliate program - if they can not uphold their bottom line for the future.

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