Removing Revenue Giants

[WCD Admin]

Since May - Aug 12th

Only 15 acquisitions on 2350 visitors (7 were from their slots casino)

Average deposit of the 54 deposits: $33

$484 total profit for me.

= worse than most rivals!

Examples:
2354 visits to Slots of Fortune = $641
1361 visits to Lion Slots = $3140
241 visitors to Ruby Royal = $120
157 visitors to Simon Says = $118
564 visitors to 400 affs = $157

of course these are dismal, too, but good grief!

I quit promoting now because my % which was boosted after complaining about poor results was lowered back.

In addition, I've never heard RG take any responsibility for the poor results, only that "We have the best retention team out there" and blah blah blah

Bye bye! -- any other bingo properties that want to get on my site might want to start PMing me. Not so worried about losing Slots-Pillage and Win-None casino.

OH, one last thing and I direct this also to C-Planet. There is something called EMAIL. Use it. Stop this back-end support system, what do you think we're all made out of? TIME? are you kidding me? get with 21st century and send us an email. I'd have taken you down already except you use your "stealthy" private messaging system which don't send a copy to my mailbox and about my commission? that don't deserve an email?

We'll see how good the retention is (that they brag about when you complain about results) --- wonder how much I'll make in the coming months with the great retention... I will be sure to let you know!

[geobonus]

very bed story I had same problem with paddypower and quited them

[WCD Admin]

Actually I think I'll just move them back rather than remove them. At least they pay. But I'm definitely taking some of the exposure away.

[michael26a]

I'm definitely not going to add Revenue Giants then. I might just focus on the handful of casinos that actually work. Hopefully some new ones will enter the market soon that work well.

[ocportal]

Thanks for sharing this info, I don't work with them and will stay away.

[TheGamblingGuru]

Actually I think I'll just move them back rather than remove them. At least they pay. But I'm definitely taking some of the exposure away.

That's probably best considering Winward ARE STILL HITTING THE CRACK PIPE!

Another reason we still have them on our Rogue List as well.

At least they pay.

Players too? ... LOL...I hope you can actually decipher that if you can actually find the terms and conditions. There is no link on the homepage or in the footer. But after stumbling around a bit we did manage to find the crack pipe terms here:


Winward Casino Online Terms And Conditions Read Our Casino Rules

and here:

The Best Online Casino Bonuses And Free Bonus At Winward Casino

and here:

All About Our Cash Out And Payment Method Rules At Winward Casino


If you are brave enough to wade thru that pile of player terms garbage without stopping to puke along the way then my hats off to ya as a player!

After careful consideration, I think they will stay on our Rogue List for awhile.


Quote from a player: "Keep your bonus and keep your games. I'll play where the rules make sense."


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[WCD Admin]

As always, thanks for keeping me in line. going to put up the not-recommended text on that...

LOL so thats how they retain them.

[TheGamblingGuru]

As always, thanks for keeping me in line. going to put up the not-recommended text on that...

LOL so thats how they retain them.

LOL, Exactly WCD

They are the Captains of the Online Casino Industry in terms of: complicate, disconcert, frustrate, embarrass, disarray, disorder, encumber and mainly CONFUSE.

I reckon that's a good plan though for the Casinos & Bingo Rooms in their group but certainly not player friendly in anything at all close to layman terms.

It would most likely take a team Harvard Law School grads along with a few neuro scientists to clearly understand those pages of terms there!

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[TheGamblingGuru]

Back in 'the day' they kept it simple for customers/players...

Winward Casino - Casino Policies

Don't really know why they went so wrong in complicating all aspects of gaming at their establishments though...it's really sad.

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[MissM]

Hello WCD Admin,

Few facts first my friend;

You are sending mainly Bingo traffic, which is not converted so well due to the type of visitors you attract, it is more casino oriented and not Bingo oriented.

Bingo players average transaction amount can be at $33, the min deposit. New players can make a deposit tranx as lower as $9.99 as well. Casino players obviously have a higher average transaction amount.

Perhaps if you would value a partnership you would contact me to discuss how to improve things, I would then tell you that if you want a better results we also have 7 more casino clients but you chose to promote only two that are using the previous platform, while I encourage my affiliates to promote the casino clients with the new software as the conversion and retention there are much better. But you thought a post will get a better solution, I doubt it.

Another thing you missed is the traffic you sent is at low quality, look at your chargeback column and see for yourself, no one likes chargeback / fraudulent players, not us and not the operators in fact you shouldn’t like it either, and if same affiliate continues to send fraudulent players eventually his account will be closed, unless it was an innocent coincident. But in your case 5 out of 15 acquisitions were fraudulent players that ended up charging back their deposits, and this is only May till Aug 12^th as you referred to as well in your example. To explain further you contribute 9% chargeback ratio of the total deposits, this is insane.

Also, Cplanet is not related to us and if you wish to speak about another program I suggest give them their own post and option to explain themselves.

I value my partnership with all my affiliates. They are my partners and most of them also my good friends. I understand their hard work and dedication and those that know me know I will do all I can to make things right, if the conversion on a specific account is lower than usual, I’ll be pushing everybody to get our traffic converted and maximize the earnings.

If you wish to talk about it in private you have my details.

Cheers, Malci