Re: Casino Pays Terms and Conditions Analysis

lagunacat · #1 (**permalink**) 01-04-2007, 11:41 AM

I received this warning from Nir in an email...

"Please contact me ASAP, and lets push it hard, if I don’t get 5 players from you in a month I will have to move you to 20% revshare, company policy."

This was after he offered 70% for Euro Grand, plus bonuses per so many players, etc.

Guard Dog · #2 (**permalink**) 01-04-2007, 03:08 PM

I have heard SO many bad things about Casino Pays (CPays) and this shows exactly how they feel about affiliates. I believe if anyone is pushing CPays properties, they should stop soon. I know it is difficult if you have a decent paycheck from them, but from the sounds of it - they will eventually ciphon off your players anyway.

Good post LagunaCat and thanks for sharing!

splinterfree · #3 (**permalink**) 01-10-2007, 06:49 AM

I used to promote Cpays for more than 2 years on our sites. We have driven hundreds of players to them (300+ for sure). A couple of months back we started having bonus abusers coming through our affiliate account resulting in a negative balance. Instead of verifying the players and banning them as bonus abusers, Cpays resorted to shutting down our affiliate account. Well, after reading numerous complaints about Cpays I wasn't surprised it happened to me, however silly their cause was (closing an account which had 4 bonus abusers out of 300 valid players is kinda harsh). I emailed Cpays immediately but got no response. So I posted about this issue on CAP http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.c...ay.17102.html? and the next day my phone started ringing from 7am. Yoni, cpays manager, called me up to say that my account was not closed but 'suspended' (even though in the email it clearly said 'closed') and that they are investigating this account. After having a 20 min chat, he slowly got to asking me not to post bad things about Cpays...hmm...so i waited.

Result - 3 weeks have passed and i have never been contacted by yoni, or adi, or anyone else since.

my 2 cents - Cpays is a sleazy affiliate program that only 'likes' you if you bring traffic.

p.s. some aff. managers have poor english knowledge resulting in annoying 'misunderstandings'.

NoLuckNeeded · #4 (**permalink**) 02-03-2008, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splinterfree

I used to promote Cpays for more than 2 years on our sites. We have driven hundreds of players to them (300+ for sure). A couple of months back we started having bonus abusers coming through our affiliate account resulting in a negative balance. Instead of verifying the players and banning them as bonus abusers, Cpays resorted to shutting down our affiliate account. Well, after reading numerous complaints about Cpays I wasn't surprised it happened to me, however silly their cause was (closing an account which had 4 bonus abusers out of 300 valid players is kinda harsh). I emailed Cpays immediately but got no response. So I posted about this issue on CAP Get burnt the hard way... and the next day my phone started ringing from 7am. Yoni, cpays manager, called me up to say that my account was not closed but 'suspended' (even though in the email it clearly said 'closed') and that they are investigating this account. After having a 20 min chat, he slowly got to asking me not to post bad things about Cpays...hmm...so i waited.

Result - 3 weeks have passed and i have never been contacted by yoni, or adi, or anyone else since.

my 2 cents - Cpays is a sleazy affiliate program that only 'likes' you if you bring traffic.

p.s. some aff. managers have poor english knowledge resulting in annoying 'misunderstandings'.

TOO BAD I DID NOT SEE THIS, I would have gladly embarrassed Yoni at another conference because he sure was
in London... Now they have their new name
so get to screw over a whole new generation of affiliates.

CAPTMARVEL · #5 (**permalink**) 03-08-2008, 07:25 PM

I have been trying to get payed from cpays for months.
They say they can only pay to a non-us based bank account, and no other options.
I wonder how many affiliates are prevented from getting theier earnings?

Guard Dog · #6 (**permalink**) 03-09-2008, 07:18 AM

I wonder this myself. I wish we had better contacts with them so that we could help more

Oren is the one you would have to talk to, I believe. I can certainly scrape up his email if need be.

bonustreak · #7 (**permalink**) 03-09-2008, 03:13 PM

Really ticks me off some of these programs think of this excuse not to pay, why not send a check then? They can offer Affiliate Speed Pay as well.

Guard Dog · #8 (**permalink**) 03-09-2008, 06:00 PM

I agree. It's completely ridiculous. I find programs that do not find a payment solution to be dishonest and unreputable. Any program 'worth it's weight' will find a way to pay ALL affiliates.

NoLuckNeeded · #9 (**permalink**) 03-10-2008, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAPTMARVEL

I have been trying to get payed from cpays for months.
They say they can only pay to a non-us based bank account, and no other options.
I wonder how many affiliates are prevented from getting theier earnings?

Try Yoni.. He got me paid after I harrassed
him at a conference. I would not recommended
promoting CPAYS, EVER! They screwed me over nicely.

Yoni Sidi yoni@ad-agency.com
Regional manager

Direct line: 00972-3607-2904

Mob: 00972-544-551183

Guard Dog · #10 (**permalink**) 03-13-2008, 06:22 AM

Did you end up getting paid after talking to Yoni CAPTMARVEL?

That might be some good information to know