Iam refused 350 from REWARDSAFFILIATE

[TheGamblingGuru]

Thanks Renee, totally awesome and thorough reply there...I see exactly what you are referring to now. I guess I was just kinda in the fog there awhile ago..although it's not the first time I have been in the fog, so to speak...

Thanks again Renee for explaining that so well..

[firstclass]

Miss Reene indeed i know the player ,,
some persons will not put money unless they know the salesman . is this unethical ?

and , it is very difficult to Convince some persons to put money in places We know they r fun and safe , but they(newplayers) have nearly zero knoledge about .

But where did i sugessted or how did
you conclude that
he she was getting payed to buy credits and gamble ? This was not the case
I didnt say it to your boss on the phone .

So, The line positioined 2 line places up the line of
.." Reserve the right ... ( indeed the right T C rule the program can go by ,depends on /"legally" in this issue , ) ..to group " , Is not true .


Beyond this the issue is , why in the first place ,should i ever be worried about a reknown casinoaffiliate group , grouping deposits of affiliate ,

and even beyond this , if a cpa program is offered by a casino , to reward
affiliate for clients that do 1-2 deposits ( 100 in this case , not very small i think) , what is the point with a cpa program if the line that goes between making money professinaly from links To an unethical act is too thin .

And the emails , that i wrote you , Why Should i not require about linking persons to my account , and my rewarding pyramid - If you are an account affiliate co ordinator ?

if something is yet unclear from my saying, i will be responding gladly ,

and , beyond that , Happy weekend gamming To us

[Renee]

The point of a CPA model is to reward affiliates once off for a player. A player is not someone who deposits the minimum amount so the affiliate can be paid the once off commission fee, then goes to another doing the exact same thing, then after they have exhausted the resources move onto another group and never play at the casino again. We are a casino group, not a charity.

The above is not an affiliate partnership and we do not wish to work with any affiliates who display this type of behaviour.

Despite what you may think, we actually don't make any money from a $100 deposit after paying you $50 plus any bonuses given to the player. We pay royalties to MGS as well as other operating costs like salaries, bills, etc.

The problem with conducting your affiliate business in this way is that you are purposely trying to defraud the affiliate program. Why would we want a business partner who is out to stiff us? Doesn't sound like a partner in any sense of the word to me.

We have almost 80,000 registered affiliate accounts. All of the other 79,999 affiliates are able to advertise our casinos to people they don't know and get players, so what makes you different? I think you don't give the players enough credit. They are not stupid and if they are comfortable with what you are offering and can find a reason to trust your site, they will play at one of the casinos you recommend. The trick is to make sure you do proper reviews and give them the information they are looking for.

If you put in the hard work, you could be just like everyone else. If you purposely try to scam the program/group, you will find that any dream of being rich quick will be down the toilet very quickly.

I didn't say that you could not ask about how you can refer players. I said this linked with the rest of the evidence presented proves CPA Fraud and unethical behaviour.

I have an email here from you. Here is a direct quote:

So i have my ways of promoting , and i promote giving a share to my self , the player , and the casino .

If that is not paying the player then I have no idea what you are trying to say from this line.

To me that line sounds like you mean you are paying the player to do this, you are taking some money for yourself (the commission) and the money deposited in the casino is for the casino. How else can you take this line?

Either way, Yaniv has made the decision based on all of the points above and unfortunately as the T&C states, we do reserve the right to do this. As Yaniv told you already, this is not negotiable.

I'm sorry that you feel you have been hard done by, however we will not tolerate this type of behaviour from our affiliate partners.

Unless there is any further new evidence to put forward here, I am done with this thread. I don't have any more time for this.
Cheers

[sipka]

Oh the good old CPA problems, I wonder why someone chose it over rev-share.
CPA is always a losing game for one of the parties.

The affiliate is losing out on future player revenue (and in my experience, all of my players generate me more money in 1 month than I would have earned with CPA.
The casino is losing out if the player is not a quality player and just deposits once, or tries to gamble the system like in the case here.

Great answers Renee, thanks for the detailed reply.

[firstclass]

Please allow me to quote quates again :


" we actually don't make any money from a $100 deposit after paying you $50 plus any bonuses given to ... "

Is this The affiliate concern/problem , that the program is set to ,might be confronting ,cases like this ?

its a 100 deposit min and a 50 per life By its definition .

and for my quote ..." a share to the player .." is refered to Trust -the player is

informed that the bonuses the company offers are real , the company is a trusted paying company ,its safe to give credit card details , Etc , . thats the share the player gets . and in most cases it worth more than money /bonuses ,when it comes to real
money betting .

most of the rest is arguable . and as the above talkbak of tipka sugessted , this cpa type arrouse this problem .

[WCD Admin]

firstclass,

I think most people here agree with Renee. You should give it a rest. We are all affiliates on this board responding here, and have nothing to gain by defending a program that is doing something wrong - after all that's why this place exists.

Renee made extremely good points here, and you are not.

At first I thought it might just be a language barrier, but the fact that you are spelling peoples names wrong, etc, makes me thing you are coming in here and just slamming out whatever keys your fingers hit in a fit of fury.

Not much thought or time being put into this on your part while everyone else is taking time out of their day to try to help you.

no biggie, but maybe just give this a rest? go try to find some players. build a website, do some active marketing. Paying players? dude.