How are you doing with Rival?

[TheGamblingGuru]

May stats were not the best when comparing them to March or April but it sounds like many affiliates had a dip in May with all programs. I saw no change with Rockbet and This is Vegas had a 20% drop in deposits. For the month of June both casinos are doing better than expected based on May's stats. I don't know if this is a Rival thing specifically but the software has only improved (new progressive and upgraded 3 reels) and nothing has changed with the server performance or payment processing conversions. I would expect maybe a 5-10% drop each month leading into the summer but May was noticeable for This is Vegas.

I'm really sorry to hear that everyone is having a hard time with Rival this June.

For us at Regal Affiliates, we haven't had any drop in anything... on the contrary we are seeing strong growth. However, I must admit that being a fairly new casino, we are still in a growth period.

Kind Regards,
Nicolas Johnson

Don't you guys actually think that most of us here seeing these drops in stats maybe is due in part to the Irish Luck fiasco? That ordeal certainly didn't help any of us you know. The other thing that a lot of my players keep asking me about in emails and private chat is why are there constantly so many updates to the slot machines when they actually log-in to a particular slot and then they see nothing has changed other that the RTP and that alone makes players leery.
What are the main reasons for all the constant updates to the slots especially when there are no noticeable changes to the slot in particular? I've never seen any gaming software platform have so many updates all the time.

I asked these couple of questions in RED back on June 22nd as you can see in the original post above but yet no one or any Rep either even bothered to reply..

So I will give it one more shot here..

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Payment Processing 6/10
There isn't much I can comment on here but across all Rivals they have improved over the past year and I am confident to say that it will be better over the next few months. I would say this will be 8/10 or 9/10 in a few months.

Is there going to be another processor added besides Pantasia?

Game Selection 7/10
I would say that things holding Rival back are the lack of progressives but this is already being addressed and I would say by 2010 Rival should have a great selection of games and progressives.

John

John, to be brutally honest here, I really don't think that your lack of progressives will mean a hill of beans either way if you guys don't get with the program and start paying out progressive jackpots in full when they are won and not over months or a year!

[dominique]

One thing I don't like about the software is the boring ancient IE type notifications when free spins are hit. How exciting is that grey box?

Fireworks should go off when you hit free spins, anticipation should go up, suspense should peak.

Yet every new slot still uses that ugly old boring box.

That's my only issue with the software...

[TheGamblingGuru]

Whenever a player gets bonus banned they always make the most noise and I won't argue with those players either.

One more question John, or any Rival Rep for that matter that is willing to answer.

Why is it that Rival is the dominate software provider that everyone is always hearing about players getting bonus banned at their casinos? We hardly if ever hear of this at RTG or MG casinos.

What is the common denominator behind all of these bonus bannings and why offer them in the first place if we are going to constantly see these types of reactions and threads and the loss of players and the others players getting pissed off about it when they hear?

Actually, that was two more questions..

[RockbetJohn]

These questions are all over the place and on top of that they are not one liner questions either.

Why are Rivals having more players pissed off on forums? Maybe because there are not many US casinos left in the market. If you look before MG and Playtechs left you'll find worse threads than players being bonus banned, how about money confiscated with the casino pointing to a vague T&C saying they can do whatever they want. Rival are probably better at detecting bonus abuse and most of these players that do complain at CM when I look at their accounts it's either bonus abuse or multiple accounts, not all the time but most. Keep in mind I got into the industry as a bonus hunter so I've seen the whole spectrum of players. Slotocash doesn't bonus ban as many players, however I know many affiliates who are not happy with their earnings there. They do very well as a program but imagine if you had a bonus hunter on your account knocking off $ from the commissions you made from a lot of players. You would be asking me to whack that player off of your account fairly quickly. I don't apologize for this and I don't have time to argue with these players. If Rival didn't know how to treat any players decently we would be out of biz long ago and if you think of the some of the softwares that have failed or MGs that have also failed I think Rival are doing a good job.

Irish luck fiasco I don't think this is an issue at all. Most players don't read the forums and if it was such a significant factor I think all Microgamings would be out of business with Grand Prive ripping off millions from affiliates. Look at 2 accredited casino groups, fortunelounge and casinocoins. casinocoins I regard as one of the top programs in the industry but take these 2 programs and look at their history at casinomeister in the past 4 years. The irish luck fiasco was nothing in comparison, besides the irish luck thing was sorted out and nobody was ripped off.

What slot updates are you referring to?

Progressive jackpot payouts are being dealt with but I don't see this as an item that would destroy player values. It is being sorted but keep in mind with one giant win a lot of money has to be collected from many processors then wired to the one where the player wants to get paid out. Have a look at some of the other software providers that have had casinos go belly up because of jackpot wins. Why isn't this a bigger issue? If it was then nobody would ever play a microgaming.

Last, I'm trying to help guys but I feel like I'm getting attacked on this issue esp from GamblingGuru. Once again if you want to ask some questions contact me personally. You all know I am not forum shy but most of these discussions are sensitive and I am not disclosing anything for casino data, processing information or player info. I think many of these questions could be asked for other programs as well.

John

[TheGamblingGuru]

Last, I'm trying to help guys but I feel like I'm getting attacked on this issue esp from GamblingGuru.
John

John, WTF ?? Dude ..you can't possibly be that sensitive can you..

I am simply just asking a few questions here and I also believe that I asked them in a polite manner as well. If you don't or choose not to answer them..then fine, but don't come back with some lame line that I am attacking you here for gawds sake!!

Are you serious man??

[dominique]

I do see John's point. It's not fun having all these questions launched at once, I've been there. It gets overwhelming and then one feels like one is on the defense.

I am very glad to have John here trying to help answer the basic question - why Rival didn't jump right into the spot Microgaming vacated.

And I think I did get the answer that makes sense to me - processing issues.

And that is a very complicated issue with UIGEA around, and can't be discussed in public for obvious reasons.

It does look like UIGEA is on the butcher block. Let's hope the dismantling of that nonsensical, vague and unenforceable law is speedy.

[TheGamblingGuru]

I do see John's point. It's not fun having all these questions launched at once,

Well, just to recap here..I asked three (3) questions today with the exception of the two (2) that I had previously asked back on June 22nd...If that's considered overwhelming or attacking then I am man enough to say that I am sorry and I apologize to all the other forum members here for asking what I thought to be relevant questions...It won't happen again!

1. Is there going to be another processor added besides Pantasia?

2. Why is it that Rival is the dominate software provider that everyone is always hearing about players getting bonus banned at their casinos?

3. What is the common denominator behind all of these bonus bannings and why offer them in the first place if we are going to constantly see these types of reactions and threads and the loss of players and the others players getting pissed off about it when they hear?

[Guard Dog]

I think John is doing a superb job of answering so far - thanks for that! I could tell from my phone that the tone could be construed as frustrated on both ends of this Let's just try to be conscious that these issues can put folks on each side on the defensive.

Its hard to show sensitivity online... So when we all respond, let's just reread our own posts before hitting 'Submit Reply'. We can all use a little re-wording now and again to keep our topics productive.

Sorry to derail!! Carry on and have a great July 4th!!! Fireworks starting in Wisconsin soon!

[TheGamblingGuru]

John, I'm still really bothered by your post man and you thinking that I was attacking you. After all the times that I have stood up for you and your programs over at Casinomeister and most of the time I would be the only one "Thanking" your post over there and then this is the Fu**ing thanks I get eh?? ..

If you thought I was attacking you then you may need to sit down to read this latest one there...

HI! I need a friendly advice regarding payment delay at Rockbet - Page 3 - Casinomeister's Online Casino and Poker Forum

[slotplayer]

That's a savvy bunch of seasoned players at CM, I wouldn't take what they say lightly.