CR Issue

[AussieDave]

harassment

I just want to be paid what Casino Rewards /Rewards Affiliates has stolen from me.

Your my affiliate manager and your who I contact over this, your the one who is accountable and who needs to stop crying wolf!

If you've got a problem with me contacting you and asking about when I'm going to be paid the money Casino Rewards / Rewards Affiliates has stolen from me.

Then contact the Police if you think I'm harrassing you!

I'm well within my Australian rights and the law to contact anyone in Australia who owes me money and ask when I'm being paid!

Maybe I should employee a debt collection agency to hound your asses for my stolen money.

[TheGamblingGuru]

This whole scenario about not properly tagging our players we send and cross marketing to them without our aff tags is really disturbing...

How long have other affiliates known about this?

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[AussieDave]

This whole scenario about not properly tagging our players we send and cross marketing to them without our aff tags is really disturbing...

How long have other affiliates known about this?

Thanks Guru for stepping up to the plate and asking what's up.

Frankly it got swept under the carpet over at the GPWA and to the point where it was removed from the public forums and taken private. Which BTW a vote by private members was supposed to decide whether Rewards Affiliates got turfed as a sponsor as a result.

Well the vote came back (I believe in favour of kicking RA as a sponsor)...However Corfman then ignores that vote, instead claiming it was only to get a feeling of how members felt

I'm not here to have a go at the GPWA/ APCW or Corfman.

All I want is to be paid what's been stolen from me from CasinoRewards / Rewards Affiliates with them using these unethical cross marketing tactics to hijack my tagged players.

[leporello]

Renee is what aussiedave said true - ie you cross promote other brands using your own referral links so that affiliates lose the player? I think it's very disturbing if that is true. His screenshots seem to be genuine so I'm very interested in finding out more about it.

[AussieDave]

For completeness and to prove I'm not making this up here is one (of many emails) my player received within hours of joining Captain Cooks Casino via one of my site banners:

NB - I've reverted this to email to text but will post a screen cap of the orginal in my next post.


----- Original message -----
From: "CR Help Desk"
To: tim_xxxxx@fastmail.com.au
Date: 10 Apr 2011 16:04:32 +0000
Subject: Tim - Your Membership Details for CasinoRewards




Dear Tim,

Thank you for registering at Captain Cooks Casino and welcome to
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CasinoRewards login details

Username: Tim_Xxxxx
(remember the '_')
Password: xxxxxxx
(case sensitive)

Accessing CasinoRewards

[screen.gif] You can access your CasinoRewards account in two
ways:
1. Visit FastMail.FM WARNING: URL text and host don't match,
possible phishing attempt. URL disabled. Original
URL='http://www.crhelpdesk.com'. Original
text='www.casinorewards.com'. For more information on
phishing click [1]here. and enter the above details
2. Click on the login button in the green CasinoRewards box in
the lobby of the casino software.

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Toll-Free Numbers

Your privacy is extremely important to us and we adhere to a
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[5]support@casinorewards.com. Further queries will also be
attended to at this address.

Report any [6]email abuse.
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References

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2. YYYmailto:support@casinorewards.com
3. YYYmailto:support@casinorewards.com
4. YYYhttp://cr.crnewsletter.com/main/unsub.asp?list=cr_offers&eh=Deleted to protect email address
5. YYYmailto:support@casinorewards.com
6. YYYmailto:support@casinorewards.com?subject=Spam%2 0Complaint
7. YYYhttps://server.iad.liveperson.net/hc/75505394/?cmd=file&file=visitorWantsToChat&site=75505394&byhref=1&SESSIONVAR!skill=English&SESSIONVAR!email%20Campaign=WelcometoCR

Hidden links:
8. xxxhttp://www.casinorewards.com/

[AussieDave]

The top header with Casino rewards as you can see in the footer of the plain text email, had the direct link to casinorewards.com

Also contained in the direct email to my player without my aff tag, was phishing URL to another site owned by Casino Rewards, that of:

Visit FastMail.FM WARNING: URL text and host don't match, possible phishing attempt. URL disabled. Original URL=YYYhttp://www.crhelpdesk.com. Original text=YYYwww.casinorewards.com

[AussieDave]

Now consider all this proof above, I know full well Casino Rewards and Rewards Afifliates have been hijacking my tagged players.

How much money does that entail...Pre 2008 I wasn't heavily marketing their gaming properties. However since mid 2008 they were on 15 or so of my sites.

When all this blew up and became public over at ther GPWA on the 8'th March 2011:
http://www.gpwa.org/forum/all-22-cas...te-196308.html

At one point I commenced taking screen caps on my affiliate account monthly reports. I got back as far as Sept 2009. That month I sent 31 players who signed up as real players. June 2010 I sent 42 players. July 2010 50 players got sent.

Start to add up those figures and knowing that Casino Rewards were contacting all of these players without my affiliate tag and the mind boggles to how much money Casino Rewards with the aid of Rewards Affiliates have stolen from me.

With 1000's of other affiliate doing the same thing...Is it really any wonder how Casino Rewards can afford to buy all these casinos...I estimately CR/RA have probably stolen millions of dollars from their affiliates through this cross marketing scam!!!

[AussieDave]

I think it's a little bit more than JUST an issue with CR.

It's actually blatant theft of tagged players!

[Guard Dog]

I think it's a little bit more than JUST an issue with CR.

It's actually blatant theft of tagged players!

Settle down, Dave. This thread was already played out at GPWA. I know you didn't like the response, but to rehash it again at AGD really makes no sense, IMO.

I put the title there, so obviously I approve of that title. CR/RA is not a sponsor here nor do they pay me in any way (FYI), so this is all based upon my own opinions and thoughts.

[TheGamblingGuru]

Settle down, Dave. This thread was already played out at GPWA. I know you didn't like the response, but to rehash it again at AGD really makes no sense, IMO.

I put the title there, so obviously I approve of that title. CR/RA is not a sponsor here nor do they pay me in any way (FYI), so this is all based upon my own opinions and thoughts.

What are those thoughts on this issue Andy?

Sorry if I missed your thoughts somewhere else maybe but this IS a serious issue IMO if all of this evidence of untagged players is true, as Dave has posted here...

If anyone has evidence otherwise to what Dave has posted then please by all means ...post yours... and let the membership here be the judge of the posted evidence...either way...


DISCLAIMER: I just recently started working with CR/RA so I don't know either way yet....

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