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    Default Bodog Marked with Warning

    Bodog Affiliates have been marked with a warning. The reason is that their new terms will allow them to drop your percentage to 10%. (non-retroactive)

    **Added

    • If you are a NEW affiliate, you can have commissions as low as 10%.
    • If you are an EXISTING affiliate, your NEW players can be commissioned at 10%.
    ** /Added

    While their website DOES state this, you must remember if you are a new affiliate that this is the case. That is a super-low percentage. In my opinion, the amount of work it takes to market a property is higher than the 10% commission you would gain (unless you got super-lucky and got a whale).

    However - I would prefer my whales to end up at 25% - 40% elsewhere with no chance at a 10% month.

    Regardless, they are marked with a warning-only because the term is not predatory or retroactive. It is simply a low paying option.

    See Terms Alerts for Bodog: Bodog Affiliates | Casino Affiliate Programs Terms and Conditions Updates
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    Hi Andy

    what do you mean by new affiliate? I have to check my signup date I think it's just a few months....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhondagrace View Post
    Hi Andy

    what do you mean by new affiliate? I have to check my signup date I think it's just a few months....

    The term is for new affiliates and the effective date is: Latest Update: May 25, 2010 according to the terms and conditions.

    It is important to note that this term affects both NEW affiliates and OLD affiliates in the following manner:

    Any NEW players will be affected by the term. Your OLD players are safe under the old contract. This means that if you do not agree with the new terms, DO NOT SEND THEM TRAFFIC.


    Again - I believe this is a big mistake by Bodog and will limit their reach, but it is not a predatory change.

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    I also think this is a HUGE mistake. 10% is insulting.

    When a program starts cutting corners like this, watch out.



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    Oh but don't forget they will count the negatives with 25%!

    note that if Net Revenue for a given player is $ < 0, the negative amount shall be calculated at 25% of such amount
    Considering they also have negative carryover, this group is not worth promoting anymore.
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    Looks like good old Calvin is starting to show his true colors when it comes to affilaites.

    My Grandpa used to say... "Never trust a man whos eyes are set real close together and has an obviously plucked unibrow." Glad I listened to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guard Dog View Post
    The term is for new affiliates and the effective date is: Latest Update: May 25, 2010 according to the terms and conditions.

    It is important to note that this term affects both NEW affiliates and OLD affiliates in the following manner:

    Any NEW players will be affected by the term. Your OLD players are safe under the old contract. This means that if you do not agree with the new terms, DO NOT SEND THEM TRAFFIC.

    Again - I believe this is a big mistake by Bodog and will limit their reach, but it is not a predatory change.
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    My Commission Plan:

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    With the Net Revenues plan, you'll earn between 25% and 40% of net revenues from the Sportsbook, Casino and Poker Room, depending on the total net revenues earned each calendar month. Commissions are earned on combined total of Sportsbook, Casino and Poker wagering activity. The percentage breakdown is as follows:


    ok, I just want to be clear with this new term, as my stats show I haven't brought them any players.....so any and all new players I would send them would only be 10% Net Rev share?

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    They should have been working on the stats program they have been promising for the last year that actually shows clicks/visits, etc. Instead they are looking for ways to reduce the cost of doing business at our expense.

    1. Spend no money developing tools for us to analyze whats going on
    2. Change terms that can save them money on our backs.

    sucks because we finally started making some money with this group. will remember this and point my affiliate manager to the thread.

    right now
    Bodog can do some damage control are free to reverse that move, later on - like with everyone else, it will be much harder to win us back. Where is Becky? Is Becky an affiliate manager? She was on the affiliate side of things -- maybe she can help us now?

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    When I visited their promo site with C.A. and his babes in videos enjoying $$ I jumped off the boat and decided never to join such group.

    Negative carryover + 10% if you do not promote sounds like 888.

    I would remove all links JMO.


    BTW the linklove to bodog ............ please remove the links !


    @ BB1WEB : can not reach you bud, can someone tell him he is basically sponsoring CA's boat by listing Bodog on his site ?


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    Hey Everyone,
    We appreciate your feedback and I can assure you that we do not take changes our terms and conditions lightly and look at all aspects of the program when making such decisions.

    As noted by Andy, Bodog did not make any retroactive changes (existing partners will not be subject to the min players) as we respect the contracts that we have in place with our partners and will always do so. We made the changes to the structure for new revenue share partners as we believe that it’s a stronger model for long term success with our program as it targets and allows us to focus our efforts on those that are committed to being strong and dedicated partners. With the feedback that I received from Andy prior to going live with these changes we have made the commission levels as transparent as possible – we are not trying to hide behind anything, but rather show that we are truly focused and committed to our partners that have the same level of expectations for results as we do.

    I might be interesting for affiliates to note that we did look at other commission program options, including structuring all revenue share tier levels based on monthly acquisition numbers much like C-Planet and AffiliateWide (just using those two as an example). Through our analysis we found that a rev share structure solely based on monthly acquisition numbers had a far greater impact on affiliate commissions, resulting in about a 15%-20% decrease across the board compared to our structure. We felt that this wasn’t fair to affiliates as it greatly limited their earning potential.

    Rhondagrace – if you have an account with us already, this will not change your program and you will not be subject to these terms (regardless of how many players you’ve sent to date).

    Engineer – I’d say that the 10% minimum doesn’t indicate that we’re cutting corners or raise any flags. We’ve made the minimum players very reasonable at 3 RMP in 6 months and I think it shows more about us being committed long term to those partners that are committed to us as that’s what we are focusing our energy/efforts on. If the changes were retroactive and impacting our current deals, then I could see your point.

    Sipka – with respect to the no negative carry-over I do appreciate your feedback and can say that it’s something that we have had much internal discussion and analysis of. Although I won’t commit to any changes, what I can say is that we are committed to partners who show commitment to us and we are always willing to discuss what makes business sense on a case by case basis.

    We have always been up front that we do not accept all affiliates into our program and that we are committed to working with affiliates who either drive good traffic or have the potential to do so. I honestly don’t expect that any of our new partners who promote us to have any issues with hitting the minimum numbers of players. We do understand that these levels of minimum players may not work for some affiliates, and respect that it’s decision to promote us or not. By not making it retroactive we are not forcing this upon anyone. For those that don’t see the minimum players to be an issue, I’m confident that we provide a strong program which is trusted, stable, committed to our valued partners and has a great future across all product channels globally.

    Thank you,
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