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    Default Alternative programs to Casino Coins that convert

    looking for Alternative programs to Casino Coins that know how to convert. I am sending up to 4,000 hits a month (out 20K ) to various programs with little luck, including one major one that says they carry over your negative amount forward? I thought no one did that for years now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by agww View Post
    ...including one major one that says they carry over your negative amount forward? I thought no one did that for years now?
    Lots of programs still have Negative Carry-Over (NCO)
    I have now dumped all but 3 of them as there is simply no point sending new players to a casino only to be rewarded with $0 for months or even years just because 1 or 2 of them get lucky.
    NCO really sucks!

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    as of right now affiliate edge is my best US facing brand... converts the best...

    I wish I could find more... They do however have NCO... but they are a good program...

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    affactive.com
    has converted OK for me (although nothing to write home about) and the people there have been really great to me.

    If you target the US, my experience is that conversions are getting lower for ALL the US facing programs.

    I also see more and more programs are going to a carry over policy for negative balances.

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    I agree, affactive.com is probably the next best brand. I also like mainstreetaffiliates.com and affiliateedge.com, they are good solid brands.

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    Yes but they have neg carryover - so if you are going to depend on that income, you may have unpleasant surprises.
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    For the exact reason Dom mentioned, I don't know why anyone would risk promoting a program who has NCO. Bundling is bad enough and I'm pretty sure some programs introduced this to conteract the strong opposition affiliates took when NCO was common practice.

    As far as who is a good converter, one program may work wonders for some but cr#p for others. IMO it's always a trial and error issue. Albeit some affiliates are stuck with targeting US players so the market is limited, least in promoting trustworth establishment.

    I've found affactive converts (for non US traffic) but their rentions sucks and have heard that goes for US players too. Box24 Group along with Black Diamond have recently returned to Top Game. Whilst these casinos have always paid players and affiliate on time, I'm a little apprehensive due to WinWardCasino (rogue), Rome and others who use this software.

    Reiterating if you target US players your choices in affiliate programs are hugely decreased - least of all to promoting reputable gaming venues.

    Quote Originally Posted by lots0 View Post
    I also see more and more programs are going to a carry over policy for negative balances.
    What surprises me, I play and can't hit jack but I've got players who are winning practically every damn month and not little pissy cash-outs either. My income these days ranks around 10% of total deposits most months. I've seen an average drop of over 250%. Which frankly if my Net Gaming was in the low 5 figures I'd be stuffed.

    I think the good ol days are over and 101 ways to screw affiliates is on the increase.

    Personally, I've branched out and into other areas. I can see this industry all turning to sh#t in the not too distant future. And I still stand by my thought that all this crap has transpired after GP got away with bending affiliates over.

    So my advice put some dollars away for a rainy day because storm clouds are building on the horrizon.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KasinoKing View Post
    Lots of programs still have Negative Carry-Over (NCO)
    I have now dumped all but 3 of them as there is simply no point sending new players to a casino only to be rewarded with $0 for months or even years just because 1 or 2 of them get lucky.
    NCO really sucks!

    KK
    so who are those 3? might be interested, if I don't promote them already.

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