ALERT: Playshare Partners

[Guard Dog]

We have marked Playshare Partners as a 'Predatory' Affiliate Program.

Most affiliates are aware that Playshare Partners added a High Roller clause last year and have come under fire for it ever since. Mojo originally talked about the issue at GPWA and more recently we have taken the issue up again here at AGD with an affiliate poll.

This term is RETROACTIVE, meaning that it applies to affiliates regardless of their active contract.

Playshare Partners High Roller Term Specifics:

1. Retroactively Applied - Breach of Affiliate Contract
2. Month 1 Earnings - Destroyed (You lose commissions from all your other players).
3. Net Win of $10,000 is considered a 'High Roller'

Full Terms Alert: Playshare Partners High Roller Terms Alert


PLEASE VOTE WITH YOUR TRAFFIC NOW!

Help the whole affiliate community - We need affiliates to stop promoting programs that are implementing commission-reduction techniques within their T&C's. It is the ONLY way we can stop this from continuing.

To show how this policy WILL affect you at Roxy Affiliates, please see the spreadsheet image below:




STOP PROMOTING GRAND MONDIAL, CASINOSHARE, QUATRO CASINO, POKERSHARE AND ALL PLAYSHARE WHITELABEL CASINOS NOW!

[inspiration]

If I have to stop promoting Playshare - the ones I "trust" - I can better give up being an affiliate. It is my bread and butter so to speak. Recent change of the Grandmondial bonus from 400% to 123% made me feel awful and now this? If you expect me to stop sending traffic, I would have a big problem because I do not have a good alternative - Starpartner is not an option because of remaining tracking problems, rewards/brightshare/referback is already incorporated and I do not trust Vegasaffiliates, so I am in doubt what to do now because letting them change it without a fight does not feel right either.

[Bonus Paradise]

I disagree,
I will not stop promoting them due there are many other things absolut good about Playshare.

While players disappear (they tell they stopped all playing) at some other affiliate programs, Playshare is one of those where I see players still playing , they signed up 2007.

Also with the new program, all went fine, all is tracked.
I am with them since the begin and I do trust them.
And the affiliate support is one of the best out there.

Sure I also dont like this High roller term, but oh well,
I said it already once, its also not right that I earn if the casino has not earned a cent at all on a player.
Sure I would like that they fence the player immediatly, and not only the next month.


Yes I have to agree with inspiration,
if we stop with playshare , well how many good programs are really left for us to promote.

Nope sorry guys, I am not pulling their banners.

[mojo]

Sure I also dont like this High roller term, but oh well,

Not! No disrespect but 'oh well' is not in my vocabulary.

Thank you AGD!

Finally!

[mojo]

Sure I also dont like this High roller term, but oh well,

Not! No disrespect but 'oh well' is not in my vocabulary.

Thank you AGD!

Finally!

if we stop with playshare , well how many good programs are really left for us to promote.

Plenty! And if it happens to you and you lose your earnings, don't come crying to me. Goodness knows you didn't support me!

[Bonus Paradise]

Dear mojo
1st let me say english is not my mother language, so might be my words are not sound good or ok,
We could talk german, this is my mother language, then I could explain all better,

to the oh well...............
lets say it so,
Oh well, they have this term now since over 1 year,
and I did earn with them still each single month.

Is this a ok oh well sentence?

Plenty! And if it happens to you and you lose your earnings, don't come crying to me. Goodness knows you didn't support me!

I promise, I wont come crying to you.

[AussieDave]

Hi All,

As much as I believe in the sticking together for the betterment of every affiliate, I like most have expenses that have to met every month.

For me like I'm sure others the current world economic climate doesn't help either.

I don't promote a heap of casino programs. But the ones I do promote 99% are MG.

If I start yanking programs then I starting losing income.
If I start losing income I can't pay my bills.
If I can't pay my bills then I'm screwed.

My other suggestion...

We draft a letter & attached a petition.
We call on all affiliates to sign this petition; not just who promote this brand.
The letter and the petition is sent Playshare Affiliates stating exactly what we want changed and why.

We issue Playshare Affiliates an ultimatum. Change this TERM(s) or all those XXX affiliates on this petition will be pulling all Playshare banners on date X.

Those who don't promote this brand are telling Playshare that they WONT promote them. Whilst those that do are telling them we will pull your banners if you don't change this contract clause(s).

That's a damn strong message that WILL affect the Playshare bottom line.

To further assist our cause we also issue a Press Release.

In addition we contact Industry identities such as CasinoMeister who market these casinos. He's stood up to affiliates being treated badly by casinos before so there is no reason why he wouldn't do it again in this instance.

Just pulling banners willy nilly is not IMHO a good solution.

Not only does it not SEND a quantifiable message to Playshare Affiliates, but it doesn't take into account that people (webmasters) are having to throw away monthly revenue, that may be keeping the wolf from the door and placing food on people's table.

IMHO people who need this revenue to stay afloat wont yank anyone's banners. When they maybe looking at going ass up if they do!

Of course if you sign the petition then you have to be prepared to pull banners and links if need be.

But least this way you have some time to add another affiliate program(s) to your site(s). It allow time to start building a revenue stream to counteract the possible loss if you have to yank Playshare.

Just some food for thought!


Cheers



Dave

[Daera]

Playshare is one of the programs I trust the most, to give me accurate stats, treat me with fairness and honesty, and payments are what they should be. Unlike some other programs that I have one problem after another with, or the players just disappear. Playshare is solid.

I was one of the oddballs that didn't have a problem with the change, or the policy. I have a player that's affect by this, and has been for many months now. It's not a big deal.

I guess I'm used to the old days when I promoted many casinos that carried negative rollovers. Gosh, I remember being negative with IOG and Cpays some unbelievable amount, that I never did dig my way out of. This policy doesn't keep me from earnings because of a big win, only the one month. And we would have lost our earnings from a big win that first month even if there was no high roller policy. Just because of the big win.

This is a bit harsh in my opinion. IMO, I think the warnings to affiliates to not send traffic somewhere, should be due to more serious reasons than a high roller policy like this.

Sorry, but I just don't see things the way some of you do here I guess.

[Guard Dog]

This is a bit harsh in my opinion. IMO, I think the warnings to affiliates to not send traffic somewhere, should be due to more serious reasons than a high roller policy like this.

Sorry, but I just don't see things the way some of you do here I guess.

To all who feel this way - Not just Daera

The reason for such measures are due to the stealing of income on the first month, not the clause itself. If Playshare would PlayFair with our income, then this would be a non-issue. The problem is this: If affiliates do not speak up about this en-masses, Playshare feels they don't care enough to worry about them. When only 5 affiliates speak up, Playshare thinks 'who cares', we have a thousand affiliates and 5 are mad - so what.

Note that Casino Coins has a 'Big Winner' clause and we did NOT ask affiliates to stop promotion. That is because Casino Coins went out of their way to ensure that the fencing is true fencing. They were not looking to gain extra revenue by fencing after the first month.

We understand that all affiliates will not stop promotion. Playshare has been a quality organization for awhile and I, personally, like the affiliate managers over there. It was a difficult decision to create a 'call to arms' post, but necessary. If the 'good guys' like Playshare can steal revenues, imagine what all the 'bad guys' will do.

AussieDave - Your idea is a good one. But like you said - it means that those who sign the petition will have to back it up if the group(s) decide not to return to an affiliate-friendly term.

[dominique]

The issue is much bigger than the loss of income for one month.

The issue is that this opens the door for all programs to do the same, and affiliates overall can expect a huge reduction in income.

I strongly recommend you find a substitute for playshare and, if you are worried about losing income, change things over slowly but surely.

Personally, I have already lost my axx with Grand Prive and I have learned my lesson. They were messing around with retroactives before they decided to just steal all our comissions, and in my case that was 8 years worth of a player base and supported an entire family.

I cannot stress enough that we need to take these things very seriously if we are to ensure a future for ourselves.

When programs think that affiliate contracts are not real contracts and change them retroactively at will, we don't have an industry and you can kiss your income good bye.

Even if just one program is getting away with implementing contract changes that add up to breach, we have set a precendent for chaos.

If you want this to be a continuous stream of income for yourself, please consider taking a one time blow instead of sitting there just taking it til there is nothing left.

An industry that does not honor contracts soon turns into an industry of thieves where a handshake means nothing and you cannot trust anyone.

Please look at the big picture.