two rival casino bite the dust?

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Thanks to everyone who pointed me to this thread.

Somebody find out from Debbee who owns these two outfits, I mean she did just work for them a couple months back so she of all people should know who is behind them and who owns them ...right?

Please don't drag me into this. It's been far more than a couple months since I've worked at First Gaming (just short of eight months, to be exact). I've had nothing to do with the company since then.

It looks as if Andy has sorted out the ownership issue, so I would expect there's no further reason for me to be involved in this. My reputation means everything to me--I'm not about to let it take a hit over something that has absolutely nothing to do with me.
 
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That was not CAP, that was posted at the aff site for Absolute Slots, which was run by Effective Media/Lou. No connection to CAP.

LOL Dom...:p

That's the best spin I've seen since I last watched Faux News a few nights ago...:emoticon-0123-party
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Guru, this happened AFTER Lou and Warren parted ways.

And Lou always owned Effective Media. He started it and it was his. He listed Warren as corporate officer.

Anyway, this is all totally besides the point.

This is the point:

Dear Affiliate,

You may have noticed some disruption at
Manhattan Slots and SlotPower. Due to a business dispute we have moved the domains to Vanguard Casino and SlotPower. You can reach our affiliate site at First Gaming Partners. In order to ensure proper tracking, please update your affiliate links to the .co.uk domain for each affiliate link.

We extend our deepest apologies for any inconvenience and possible malicious intent that our previous marketing partners may have caused. The casino operator, Bonne Chance NV, was given no warning or indication that its marketing partners were planning to redirect traffic from its primary operating URLs. As the casino operator, Bonne Chance NV will continue to maintain and manage both casino sites as it has done in the past. All player and affiliate payments will be made as scheduled and going forward it will be business as usual for all existing and new players.

As a sign of our appreciation of your understanding we will extend an additional $25 CPA for every new depositing player (wagers and deposits $50 or more) you bring in between May 12th and June 31st, 2010.

A new management team has been assigned and can be reached at support@firstgamingpartners.co.uk

Best Regards,
First Gaming Affiliate Support
 
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In order to ensure proper tracking, please update your affiliate links to the .co.uk domain for each affiliate link.

TOO LATE REMOVED 4 GOOD ...... BYE BYE

@Dominique could you please remove the .com links to vanguard and slotpower they have enough attention at this moment ;D
 

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TOO LATE REMOVED 4 GOOD ...... BYE BYE

@Dominique could you please remove the .com links to vanguard and slotpower they have enough attention at this moment ;D


DITTO! they sure did screw themselves over for keeping us out of the loop.
 

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Done and done.
 

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This has been posted on the firstgamingpartners.com website

Dear First Gaming Partner Affiliate,

Unfortunately the Rival gaming platform hasn't lived up to our expectations over the past few months.
Because of continued and prolonged processing problems you might have seen your conversion ratios
and player values erode. We had no other option, but to drop Rival. We sincerely hope that Rival will
continue honoring their affiliate commitments as they have done in the past. Your players will be able
to continue playing on the sytem and thus you will continue receiving checks from them. However
we ask you not to send further traffic to our front page.

We wish you continued success in your affiliate endeavors.

Best regards,
First Gaming Partners Team

Its far too blunt, honest and lacking in spin to be true. When have you ever heard an affiliate program speak like that? Along with the domain updates it looks like they have had their domains hijacked and/or been hacked.
 

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Its far too blunt, honest and lacking in spin to be true. When have you ever heard an affiliate program speak like that? Along with the domain updates it looks like they have had their domains hijacked and/or been hacked.
I have to agree - something just doesn't look, feel or sound right about that statement.

I can't help wondering if someone simply forgot to renew the domain registrations (like Bodog a few years back), and somebody with a grudge against Rival jumped in and grabbed them.

It's all just very weird...

KK
 

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I have to agree - something just doesn't look, feel or sound right about that statement.

I can't help wondering if someone simply forgot to renew the domain registrations (like Bodog a few years back), and somebody with a grudge against Rival jumped in and grabbed them.

It's all just very weird...

KK

I don't think that had anything at all to do with it as you can see below that the domain does not expire until 8/30/10....



domain: slotpower.com
owner: - -
organization: Hypervision
email: worldegaming@yahoo
address: 23 Shennoy Road Suite 18
city: Chennai
state: --
postal-code: Chennai 600034
country: IN
phone: +49.1234578
admin-c: CCOM-1442878
tech-c: CCOM-1442881
billing-c: CCOM-1442880
nserver: ns1.rivalpowered.com
nserver: ns2.rivalpowered.com
nserver: ns3.rivalpowered.com
status: lock
created: 2003-08-30 18:24:50 UTC
modified: 2010-05-12 13:37:31 UTC
expires: 2010-08-30 18:24:50 UTC

contact-hdl: CCOM-1442878
person: - -
organization: Hypervision
email: worldegaming@yahoo
address: System Admin
address: 23 Shennoy Road Suite 18
city: Chennai
state: --
postal-code: Chennai 600034
country: IN
phone: +36.203393924

contact-hdl: CCOM-1442881
person: - -
organization: Hypervision
email: worldegaming@yahoo
address: System Admin
address: 23 Shennoy Road Suite 18
city: Chennai
state: --
postal-code: Chennai 600034
country: IN
phone: +36.203393924

contact-hdl: CCOM-1442880
person: Avi Goldman
organization: Hypervision
email: worldegaming@yahoo
address: 23 Shennoy Road - Flat 18
address: Nungambakkam
city: Chennai
state: -
postal-code: 600 034
country: IN
phone: +1.6465363096

source: joker.com live whois service
query-time: 0.021153
db-updated: 2010-05-13 08:48:39
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domain: vanguardcasino.com
owner: System Administrator
organization: Hypervision
email: worldegaming@yahoo
address: 23 Shennoy Road - Flat 18
address: Nungambakkam
city: Chennai
state: -
postal-code: 600 034
country: IN
phone: +1.6465363096
admin-c: CCOM-1427580
tech-c: CCOM-1427580
billing-c: CCOM-1427580
nserver: ns1.rivalpowered.com
nserver: ns2.rivalpowered.com
nserver: ns3.rivalpowered.com
status: lock
created: 2009-05-11 07:15:27 UTC
modified: 2010-05-12 08:50:31 UTC
expires: 2011-05-11 07:15:27 UTC

contact-hdl: CCOM-1427580
person: System Administrator
organization: Hypervision
email: worldegaming@yahoo
address: 23 Shennoy Road - Flat 18
address: Nungambakkam
city: Chennai
state: -
postal-code: 600 034
country: IN
phone: +1.6465363096

source: joker.com live whois service
query-time: 0.013855
db-updated: 2010-05-13 08:53:32
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I think another good question that we should be asking here is exactly how was Windows Casino partner Avi Goldman connected to these two casino operations?

The rogued casino operation "Connect To Casino" sold its interest to World eGaming as well back in March of 2005. Maybe that right there explains why "Connect To Casino" switched from the RTG Platform to the Rival Platform last year...eh ;)
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Slot Power's .com website is back up now. I just got a promotional email from Slot Power Support for a 50% weekend bonus. So I click the link in the bottom of the email and sure enough the SlotPower.com is working fine now. BUT...so is the .co.uk slotpower.co.uk link.

The odd thing about this though is that the affiliate program link on the bottom of the pages there on both domains still directs to firstgamingpartners.com where the First Gaming Partners Team message is on the white page...lol

Clowns I tell ya...clowns...:p

KK, you still promoting this bunch buddy?
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KK, you still promoting this bunch buddy?
For now, yes.
I tend to take a "wait & see" approach to situations like this, not least because to remove ALL their banners & links from all my sites would take a pretty long time, and to put them back if it turned out everything was OK would take even longer!
For casinos which only attract 2 or 3 new players (not necessarily depositing) per month anyway - it's not worth the effort.

I remain confident that no matter what happens at Rival casinos, players will not get ripped-off. That is my main concern.

KK
 

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>> The odd thing about this though is that the affiliate program link on the bottom of the pages there on both domains still directs to firstgamingpartners.com where the First Gaming Partners Team message is on the white page...lol


both domains in affiliate link format still directs to firstgamingpartners.com

firstgamingpartners.co.uk -- no redirect

??
 
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